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RE: Web Application Security

Subject: RE: Web Application Security
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:12:26 +0200
Zack wrote:
The other option from a Web Application Firewall is to
use a black box tester and look for vulnerabilities
within your Web application. I personally think that
is a better approach since you are "fixing" the source
of potential vulnerabilities rather than "hiding" them
behind a firewall. 

Are you sure that by black box testing you actually fix the vulnerabilities?
The last time I checked, vulnerability scanners did not claim to modify the
code in any way. I assume you would agree that scanners just point to
vulnerabilities requiring the programmers to fix them. If your web site
operator takes down the site the moment a vulnerability is found and your
programmers fix it within a reasonable time frame to keep the site down (3
minutes?) you are fine with scanners. However I assume that your situation
is different.
 
While I agree that using scanners to empower programmers to make their code
better, I don't think it is a one stop solution for protection your
application. Application firewalls will enable you to dynamically patch
those vulnerabilities until the programmers come around to fixing them and
provide protection from zero-day attacks until the next time you run your
scanners. My colleague Ivan Ristic wrote just yesterday a blob entry
describing use cases for WAFs:
http://www.modsecurity.org/blog/archives/2008/03/web_application_4.html.
 
~ Ofer

Ofer Shezaf
Work: ofers@breach.com, +972-9-9560036 #212 
Personal: ofer@shezaf.com, +972-54-4431119

VP Security Research, Breach Security
Chair, OWASP Israel 
Leader, ModSecurity Core Rule Set Project
Leader, WASC Web Hacking Incidents Database Project


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