Well, the phrase is fom it's "collector". The applications are samples of
blog, buletin board, ...etc. Ofcourse they should'nt be used as they are
in "real life" implementations. It can happen that a patch isn't timely
published. Also in enterprise networks, it's sometimes possible that a web
server is managed by some other administrator and not updated timely.
For a security lab, no patches should be applied.
Well, in a lab environment, I keep them as they are.
They can be put in a honeypot also to see what happens :)
Enis
"Real-life" programs meaning applications intended for actual use, not
just for security benchmarking? Wouldn't you want to fix the vulns you
find in those, thereby ruining their value as benchmarks?
-----Original Message-----
From: Enis Karaarslan [mailto:enis.karaarslan@ege.edu.tr]
Sent: Thu 8/24/2006 3:08 AM
To: Evans, Arian; rwp@gmx.de
Cc: websecurity@webappsec.org; webappsec@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] RE: Environment for testing WebApp Security
Scanners
Hello all,
I am currently working on web/web application security issues in
enterprise networks as an academic study. I think, the fundamental problem
(especially in campus networks), there is usually no "network awareness".
In enterprise networks, hundreds of different web servers and different
web applications can be present, where usually nobody knows detailed info
about web servers and applications running on them.
Maybe most of you know,
For security testing environment there is Stanford Securibench, which is a
set of open source real-life programs to be used as a testing ground for
static and dynamic security tools. Release .91a focuses on Web-based
applications written in Java.
http://suif.stanford.edu/~livshits/securibench/
There are many web/ web application security scanners. If anyone intrested
in this subject and also for a joint work, s/he is always welcome.
Enis Karaarslan
Ege University
I added the WASC list, since many folks there are sensitive
to this same subject.
-----Original Message-----
From: René Palige [mailto:rwp@gmx.de]
I?m currently working on my bachelor thesis which is about
the development of a testsuite for different Web Application
Security Scanners. My goal is to provide an environment
This, I discovered, was very challenging. When I post the OWASP
Tools v3, one section of it is going to be about my trials and
tribulations, mistakes, misfires and general stupidity in trying
to scientifically, systematically evaluate tools, which culminated
in the HEWA2 book.
No one has done a good job at this, most reviews are just plain
crap (sorry, everyone, it's the truth; if there's a good review
to defend please step up to the plate).
I have been holding off releasing v3 (which is a narrative doc)
until I can put it out for peer review before making a final,
hard, PDF. (should I just post to the list and let everyone chime
in?...I'm afraid to do this b/c some of it is _not_nice_) I hope
someone will wikify the end product.
I?m planning to use OWASPs WebGoat as some kind of groundwork.
Not bad, but you will need more. Unless your thesis is "how
effectively do webappscanner vendors code to detect issues
in WebGoat?"
Would it be best to focus on "real-life scenarios"?
That's what I fell upon. It's a bit more realistic.
You get no tautology from the scanner vendors. You get real
use-case scenarios, and a story to tell.
Or rather to cover as many
aspects of a special class of vulnerabilities as possible?
This, also, I tackled, and have an evolving-complexity XSS
generator; I have a couple of types now and continue to add
more as time permits, and it is use specifically to generate
XSS-vuln pages of varying filter/encoding complexity.
It really should be in SiteGenerator (owasp.net) but it helps
me make sure I'm not misunderstanding something to force myself
to write complicated mistakes out by hand. :)
Maybe I'll just rip the scanner eval story and post just that.
Very cool, we need some smart grad work here.
Arian J. Evans
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