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Fwd: Non SSL Bank Login Forms

Subject: Fwd: Non SSL Bank Login Forms
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:28:08 -0600
also How would the customer verify that it is secure without first
presenting them with a SSL cert

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Kennedy <wilson.amajohn@gmail.com>
Date: May 18, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Non SSL Bank Login Forms
To: Wil Clouser <clouserw@gmail.com>
Cc: webappsec@securityfocus.com

Thanks for the response

How would the action be utilized for SSL? would you just have the full
URL ie https://somesite.com/some_file  ? How does a customer know that
the bank is who they say they are without giving them a SSL cert...
There are other issues with that as well but is out of scope from my
question


On 5/18/06, Wil Clouser <clouserw@gmail.com> wrote:
 Hi John,

The form itself is not sent over a secure connection, but the action
of the form points to a secure destination.  Since the browser
initiates the request to the destination (and that connection is using
SSL), the POST will be sent securely.

Wil

On 18 May 2006 14:57:49 -0000, wilson.amajohn@gmail.com
<wilson.amajohn@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hello all, my question is how can a form have a field that is secure without using SSL. 
 From my web programming experience I cannot understand a Bank's claim that their login form 
is secure when there is no SSL used.  "Signing on to secure sites from an unsecure page 
is a common industry practice"  The POST data has to get to the server if SSL is not 
used how can they claim it is secure?  I hope I have clarified my question enough
>
> Thanks
>
> John
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