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| Subject: | Re: [WEB SECURITY] cookies a fundamental threat? |
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| Date: | Wed, 10 May 2006 09:34:59 -0400 |
Hi Arian -
What are we, close to a decade now on this thread?
At least. =)
Per your examples below, there are a lot of different ways to use tokens (contextual) and different ways to implement tokens and /one possible way/ is a cookie, which has pros and cons, just like all the other options, but has the HUGE con of being automagically supplied by the browser...*not* even upon demand, not requiring some challenge-response scenario, but will be supplied by the browser with even the simplest tickle to make a request. This is called CSRF, or the catchier but possibly misleading "securenet session riding"! ;)
Good point. If you use hidden form fields or random elements in the URL for sessions, you get CSRF protection for free. If you are using cookies, you need to take extra steps to block CSRF attacks.
My mates and I released a proxy at BH Amsterdam that did all this for you automatically. 256 bit AES, stored flags for various bits in the HTTP resp, removed and stored things like cookies for you (which is how it worked transparently), and could be 1) URL param, 2) URI resource, 3) replace URI (most secure...and fun, 4) legacy URL/param support.
Would you be willing to summarize what kind of attacks your proxy can prevent, and what kind it cannot? Or perhaps point us to a more detailed description of what it does?
Regards, Brian
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