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RE: [WEB SECURITY] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] Review of Owasp-London Chapter mee

Subject: RE: [WEB SECURITY] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] Review of Owasp-London Chapter meeting on WAF (Web Application Firewalls)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:27:25 -0400
https://www.icsalabs.com/icsa/docs/html/communities/services/Lab_Reports/Citrix_Teros100_Certification_Final_0003.pdf

Here is our certification report.  Hope that helps! 


Kit Wetzler
Sr. Product Manager, Application Firewall
Application Networking Group
 
Citrix Systems, Inc
V: 408.850.0877
M: 408.660.7536
F: 408.850.0899
kit.wetzler@citrix.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinis Cruz [mailto:dinis@ddplus.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:58 PM
To: owasp-dotnet@lists.sourceforge.net; owasp-london@lists.sourceforge.net; 
webappsec@securityfocus.com
Cc: Patrick Wolf; websecurity@webappsec.org
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] Review of Owasp-London Chapter 
meeting on WAF (Web Application Firewalls)

The ICSA reports seem to be quite interesting (thank Patrick for the link)

What about the other WAF vendors and Web Application Scanners?

Have they done similar certification?

If so can we have the links to the reports please? (I had a quick look on the 
ICSALabs.com website and couldn't find the link to other WAF tests (even 
TrafficShield's report doesn't seem to be publicly linked
http://www.google.com/custom?q=TrafficShield&sa=Google+Search&domains=icsalabs.com&sitesearch=icsalabs.com)
 


Dinis Cruz
Owasp .Net Project
www.owasp.net

Patrick Wolf wrote:
Regarding independent security verifications of the products themselves, 
several WAF vendors created an ICSA Premier Services certification for WAF to 
specifically answer this question. Part of this certification was a full 
audit of the management console as well.

Here is the lab report for F5's TrafficShield:

https://www.icsalabs.com/icsa/docs/html/communities/services/Lab_Repor
ts/F5_Certification_Final_Report.PDF

F5 also contracted Aspect Security last year to test the security provided by 
TrafficShield vis-à-vis the OWASP Top Ten. That report can be found here:

http://www.f5.com/reports/Aspect_F5_TrafficShield_Summary_Report.pdf

I should also point out that it is our standard QA practice to test our UI 
with an application scanner.


Patrick Wolf  |  Product Manager             
F5 Networks www.f5.com   
P 408-273-4859  D 206.272.5556    
D 408-273-4859  M 408-390-9400   
            

________________________________________
From: Bill McGee (bam) [mailto:bam@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:56 AM
To: MindsX; Dinis Cruz
Cc: owasp-dotnet@lists.sourceforge.net; 
owasp-london@lists.sourceforge.net; webappsec@securityfocus.com; 
websecurity@webappsec.org
Subject: RE: [WEB SECURITY] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] Review of Owasp-London 
Chapter meeting on WAF (Web Application Firewalls)

The trick, of course, is that standards in this area are just starting to 
emerge. So who do you get to do the verification? There is no EAL equivalent 
for this space, #)3 people will always be able to find someone like Tolley 
Group to provide whatever verification you want if the fee is right.

We *really* need a standards body to step up and establish/conduct a 
soup-to-nuts verification plan. An interoperability test would also be nice...

That's MY .02...

-bill

 -----Original Message-----
From:   MindsX [mailto:mindsx@gmail.com]
Sent:   Mon May 01 06:18:29 2006
To:     Dinis Cruz
Cc:     owasp-dotnet@lists.sourceforge.net; 
owasp-london@lists.sourceforge.net; webappsec@securityfocus.com; 
websecurity@webappsec.org
Subject:        [WEB SECURITY] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] Review of Owasp-London 
Chapter meeting on WAF (Web Application Firewalls)

My $0.02... [I seem to be giving alot away recently]....

5    c) Where are the published independent security reviews of these
products? I find amazing that vendors that are selling a 'security 
product', e.g. a software application (WAF) that protects other 
software applications (Websites), do not understand the value of 
hiring independent 3rd party security companies to perform source code 
security audits to their products (note that the final results of 
these audits must be published and made available to clients). As 
discussed during the panel,

  
it is probably impossible to create bug/vulnerability free 
applications, <
    

but to NOT perform independent security audits to their code is crazy. 
Since these vendors are still in the 'Functionality Arms Race' phase 
of their products. Basically, the development teams are more focused 
on features, performance and user experience than on Security (and I 
don't have to tell you how 'secure' apps developed like this tend to 
be :). Maybe the solution is to put a WAF protecting a WAF protecting 
a WAF protecting a website :). Note to vendors: If am am wrong in this 
comment, feel free to prove me wrong and publish the security audits 
performed on your current product(s).


I'm sure that some of the more experienced coders on the planet will 
disagree with the above...

No mention of the fact that one vendor outright _refused_ to admit 
that web applications can be made secure - by that I do not mean the 
underlying code processors, but more the functionality / logic 
enforcement and input validation....

Nor the fact that they was a hard squeeze on the fact that the same vendors'
appliance has known bugs....

Hmm... Secure your network by adding more bugs..... or are customers 
supposed to purchase an extra WAF from a different vendor to protect 
the original WAF's interface ? anyways...


Moreover - how many of the above build upon open-source with out 
fulfilling the requirements of the relative license? [apparently F5 
are in the clear... or so they say...]

Think the EFF should engage....

MindsX

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