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RE: [WEB SECURITY] SSL does not = a secure website

Subject: RE: [WEB SECURITY] SSL does not = a secure website
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:27:53 +0200
Hi Ryan,

What about a Trojan installed key logger? 
These sniff all keys typed on the keyboard and then filter out interesting 
patterns, including credit card information and social security numbers that do 
follow strict patterns. 
The information is then sent to the attacker without the user knowing what is 
going on. 
I do not know the exact names of recent viruses or worms that do this, but I am 
certain there are some real-world examples.
SSL itself will not be attacked, the weak end-points, the user system and the 
application on the web server, will be attacked.

Regards,

Sebastien
OWASP Belgium Chapter Lead

________________________________________
From: Ryan Barnett [mailto:rcbarnett@gmail.com] 
Sent: dinsdag 28 maart 2006 3:41
To: Web Security; webappsec@securityfocus.com
Subject: [WEB SECURITY] SSL does not = a secure website

I need some feedback from the lists.  Does any have any verifiable proof (new 
story, etc...) that documents where attackers successfully sniffed Credit Card 
data off of the Internet for an eCommerce site???  Every story that I have read 
about indicates that attackers mostly obtain this data by breaking into the 
back-end DB to steal the CC data rather than sniffing.  Anyone with info to the 
contrary? 
 
While I believe that we would all agree that the use of SSL for eCommerce is a 
good idea, I am interested in the actual THREAT.  It seems to me that the real 
threat to CC data is a vulnerable webapp/backend and not the use of SSL.  The 
PCI Data Security Standard document ( 
http://usa.visa.com/download/business/accepting_visa/ops_risk_management/cisp_PCI_Data_Security_Standard.pdf
 ) lists this as Requirement 4 -
Protect Cardholder Data
Requirement 3: Protect stored data
Requirement 4: Encrypt transmission of cardholder data and sensitive 
information across public networks
So, when an eCommerce website boasts "We are a secure website" - keep in mind 
that they are referring to Requirement 4.  Who knows what they are doing about 
Requirement 3... 

-- 
Ryan C. Barnett
Web Application Security Consortium (WASC) Member
CIS Apache Benchmark Project Lead
SANS Instructor: Securing Apache
GCIA, GCFA, GCIH, GSNA, GCUX, GSEC
Author: Preventing Web Attacks with Apache 
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