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Re: [OWASP-LEADERS] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] RE: [SC-L]4 Questions: Latest IE

Subject: Re: [OWASP-LEADERS] Re: [Owasp-dotnet] RE: [SC-L]4 Questions: Latest IE vulnerability, Firefox vs IE security,Uservs Admin risk profile,and browsers coded in 100% Managed Verifiable code
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:01:35 +0100
I am not a Java expert, but I think that the Java Verifier is NOT used on
Apps that >are executed with the Security Manager disabled (which I
believe
is the default >setting) or are loaded from a local disk (see "... applets
loaded via the file system >are not passed through the byte code verifier"
in http://java.sun.com/sfaq/)

I believe that as of Java 1.2, all Java code except the core libraries
must
go through the verifier, unless it is specifically disabled (java
-noverify).  Note that Mustang will have a new, faster, better? verifier
and
that Sun has made the new design and implementation available to the
community with a challenge to find security flaws in this important piece
of
their security architecture. https://jdk.dev.java.net/CTV/challenge.html.
Kudos to Sun for engaging with the community this way.

Also don't forget about J2ME (which is till broken to my knowledge - if its
not please correct me):
http://www.packetstormsecurity.org/hitb04/hitb04-adam-gowdiak.pdf

Sun only engaged people because they got burnt badly before:

Java and Java Virtual Machine Security Vulnerabilities and their
Exploitation Techniques
http://www.lsd-pl.net/documents/javasecurity-1.0.0.pdf
Security Aspects in Java Bytecode Engineering
http://www.marc-schoenefeld.de/presentation/bh2002.php
Hunting Flaws in JDK
http://www.marc-schoenefeld.de/presentation/bh2003.php
Sun Java JRE "reflection" APIs Sandbox Security Bypass Vulnerabilities
http://secunia.com/advisories/18760/




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