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Re: Re: Defending users of unprotected login pages with TrustBar 0.4.9.9

Subject: Re: Re: Defending users of unprotected login pages with TrustBar 0.4.9.93
Date: 20 Sep 2005 19:40:03 -0000

Amir,

Let?s differentiate the issues a bit for clarity. Specifically, let?s 
differentiate your Hall of Shame list from TrustBar features and functions.

We should all be able to agree on statements of fact: Both http: and https: 
(SSL) sites are subject to MITM exploits. 

I wonder then what is the justification for placing some sites in your Hall of 
Shame listing. It is not unreasonable to view your pages and come to the 
conclusion that HOS entries are there because they allow access to logon forms 
using an HTTP url. 

If that is the case, then I take exception to the prima facia claims on your 
site that these are Hall of Shame. They all submit secure web forms, like any 
other secure web site in the world. Your HOS identified sites are no more (or 
no less) susceptible to MITM than any other site in the world, either.

Now as for TrustBar. I have not downloaded or tested TrustBar, so I cannot 
vouch for how well it works, but from the web site it detects HTTPS connections 
and attempts to match the certificate with the url. This helps to read a 
certificate. One nice touch is the nice logo display for visual verification.

Now a question: does it work if the certificate is valid but says something 
like citibank.asecur-e.com? Do your company logo displays from a db or are they 
downloaded from the site?

Mike

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