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| Subject: | RE: Article - A solution to phishing |
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| Date: | Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:34:51 -0800 |
Email authentication to prevent spoofing of email addresses will solve 85% of phishing attacks in their current form. At the Anti-Phishing Working Group we recommend a two-step adoption of SenderID/SPF and then email signing (most likely with Yahoo's Domain Keys or an IIM derivative). See more about this at http://truste.org/about/authentication.php Mark, you point out that authenticating a website to a consumer is necessary. www.passmarksecurity.com has an interesting image-based approach that requires no software or hardware on the end user machine. There are also a lot of things that can be done on the application security side to detect and reduce phishing. These include: - preventing cross-site scripting - detecting load spikes - preventing image referrals - detecting NDN bounce floods - detecting account takeovers - detecting phishing site testing prior to attack launch - application forensics Dave Night job: Chairman, Anti-Phishing Working Group. www.antiphishing.org Day job: Sr. VP, Teros. www.teros.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Burnett [mailto:mb@xato.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:15 AM To: webappsec@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: Article - A solution to phishing I have been watching this thread with great interest and although the basic concept that Michael describes is interesting and might help reduce phishing, as others have pointed out it is still vulnerable to a number of other threats and heavily depends on a number of assumptions that might not be realistic. Nevertheless, the fundamental issue with phishing is not that an attacker can obtain your credentials, but that an attacker can trick a user into entering credentials in a fake web form. This is because it is easy to create a fake web site that looks exactly like the original and it is easy to direct the user to that site using deceptive links in e-mails, browser vulnerabilities, DNS spoofing or poisoning, ARP spoofing, stealth proxies, cross-site scripting, HOSTS file modification, bookmark modification, trojans, social engineering, etc. Protecting authentication credentials is also a problem, but the solution to phishing is more one of authenticating the site rather than authenticating the user. First solving the issue of authenticating the site makes it easier to solve the problem of authenticating the user. Mark Burnett ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hacking the Code: ASP.NET Web Application Security http://www.hackingthecode.com
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