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RE: Web Forms filtered with SQL constraints

Subject: RE: Web Forms filtered with SQL constraints
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:43:55 +1000
Hi Tarun,

        Of course, the user can force his HTTP_REFERER to be any page he likes, 
so checking it is all but useless.

        And to the original question, it is possible to have your server 
redirect to a standard error page when an error occurs, it's trivial to find 
out how, google can help ... Something like "redirect on error + asp".

-- Michael 

-----Original Message-----
From: yahoouec@iitr.ernet.in [mailto:yahoouec@iitr.ernet.in] 
Sent: Saturday, 9 October 2004 2:30 PM
To: Matt Fisher
Cc: webappsec@securityfocus.com; Benoni.MARTIN@libertis.ga
Subject: Re: Web Forms filtered with SQL constraints

You need to perform validation on server otherwise the *wrong* user may

1. Disable javascript.This can be avoided by first finding wheather user
   has enabled/disabled javascript.

2. Make his own local page without javascript (but javascript enabled)    and 
then submit the form to your server. This can also be disabled by you, by first 
checking HTTP_REFERER value.

3. Finally the *wrong* user may just use any HTTP spoofer available or
   do telnet at port 80, which you cannot stop.

Also viewing the javascript source code cannot be disabled ( If this had been 
possible then Internet Explorer wont be able to display the page
ever)

Moreover,the applications you are talking about are JAVASCRIPT based which 
executes on client side and can be disabled etc.

So its better to do all validation at server side.

bye
TARUN BANSAL




Perform good strong validation on the *server*, as everyone else has said
,
but also use parameterized queries.  I believe "plain old" ADO (vs
ado.net)
supports them, though most of the time they're mentioned as  a "new" 
(?) feature of ado.net.  You'll get a performance increase as well.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bénoni MARTIN" <Benoni.MARTIN@libertis.ga>
To: <webappsec@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: Web Forms filtered with SQL constraints


Hi list !

I was wondering how to solve the 2 following problems: I have ASP (not
ASP.NET) formulaires people have to fill in. To avoid SQ injection 
attacks and other tricks, I have set up some Jscript filtering on each field 
(i.e.
for instance a name can just be alphabet's characters and no figures 
:) ), and I am planning to do the same on my Database (setting up 
constraints).


But I have 2 questions:
- How can I hide my Jscript filtering from the user ? When I want to 
see the source, everything is diaplayed, quite normal :( ... Maybe 
it's not so good to tell people what I have done to filter them :) I 
saw some sites where it is impossible to see the source, impossible to 
"hoover the site", impossible even to print ... But I have not been 
able to find on the net how to do this :(

- How can I deal with possible SQL errors within an ASP page ? I mean, 
if a field has been filled in, bypass my Jscript filtering (no matter 
how), and gets to the database but is then "stopped" by an SQL 
onstraint, how do I raise this error on an ASP page without diplaying 
an explicit error (giving the user the name of my database for 
instance) ?

Cheers for any clue, I am lost on this topic :(





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