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| Subject: | RE: Your Opinion |
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| Date: | Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:55:18 -0700 |
Thanx, Mark One phrase; "consider the source". The expert participant in this interview is (catch me before I faint) - Symantec CEO John Thompson. Symantec and other security vendors have had more than ample opportunity to get in this game and it wasn't until Vista hit the Beta track that Symantec folks even started noticing that their hooks were (re)moved. It's a potentially questionable process that uses the same mechanisms as the malware they seek to defend against. Yes, I know; "think like a criminal"... I agree that functional and security patches should be free (and they are), but software packages to protect Jo(sephin)e User from their propensity for digital self-abuse should be sold. You want me to protect you from your own actions? - pay me. This is the basis for most consultant businesses. The argument that the OS vender shouldn't "get into the security game" is self-serving at best (remember the source?). Thanks to recent EU and DoJ decisions, no one can argue that "they don't have access to the same information as MS teams". This is freely available on MSDN and if you want protocol specifics, to anyone willing to sign a licensing agreement with MS. IMHO, he's just plain wrong and is only making "they're being meanie-poo-poo-heads" noises. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Mark Litchfield [mailto:Mark@ngssoftware.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:49 AM To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com; vulnwatch@vulnwatch.org; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com Subject: Your Opinion I have heard the comment "It's a huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an operating platform and a security platform" made by John Thompson (CEO Symantec) many times from many different people. See article below. http://www2.csoonline.com/blog_view.html?CID=32554 In my personal opinion, regardless of the vendor, if they create an OS, why would it be a conflict of interest for them to want to protect their own OS from attack. One would assume that this is a responsible approach by the vendor, but one could also argue that their OS should be coded securely in the first place. If this were to happen then the need for the Symantec's, McAfee's of the world would some what diminsh. Anyway I am just curious as to what other people think. Thanks in advance Mark All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.
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