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| Subject: | Re: Peter Gutmann data deletion theaory? |
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| Date: | Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:14:15 +0200 |
Greetings! On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:07:12 -0500 Simple Nomad <thegnome@nmrc.org> wrote:
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 18:48, Jared Johnson wrote:Data overwritten once or twice
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The quote is from 1996. I spoke with Guttman about this at AusCERT a few years ago and even *he* doesn't believe it anymore. Drive technology has changed substantially since then.
His theory no longer does hold true. His 1996 paper is available at http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html, targeting MFM and RLL disk technology, where a typical 5.25" disk held 20-80MB (yes, MEGAbyte, not GB). His recommendations were based on old magnetic disc technology where each bit was represented by the magnetical orientation on the platter (north=1, south=0). After that came other technologies, where bits are defined by changes of the magnetic field even down to probabilistic field measurements - which allowes tighter data packing but rendered the base of his recommendations useless. Of course - if you write often enough with different data over "the same" spot, the original data will become more and more unreadable. OTOH I have seen one company with a *really* thorough disk & tape cleaning technique: 1. writing zeroes all over 2. low level format 3. shredding the disc drive into small pieces 4. magnet treatment of the scrap metal 5. burning in their own waste incinerating plant For "home use" a grinder/raw polish/sandblast treatment of both platter sides should be fine, too... ;-) Bye Volker -- Volker Tanger http://www.wyae.de/volker.tanger/ -------------------------------------------------- vtlists@wyae.de PGP Fingerprint 378A 7DA7 4F20 C2F3 5BCC 8340 7424 6122 BB83 B8CB
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