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| Subject: | Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:00:45 -0700 |
Crispin
Paul Wouters wrote:
Free enterprise is not the issue here. Audit trails are. If it means that
somewhere someone cannot make a profit, then so be it. Unless you declare
democracy dead, and instate the Corporate Republic. The 'free market'
should not be a main consideration in voting security. If you cannot relay
that message to your government, then either you or your government is not
the right one for its task.
the VVPAT groups with the open source community. So rather than putting your energy into trying to get Diebold et al to move to open source, it
Diebold has proven to not earn the trust of the public. It deserves to lose
money, or even go bankrupt. That's capitalism. You screw up and your product
no longer sells and you go do something else. Perhaps Diebold can go into
the playing cards business.
(3) WRT requiring that the technology protect itself in case the users
don't, that's simply unrealistic. In *any* real computer system, there are
expectations about the environment (e.g., the administrators aren't hostile
to the functioning of the system). It's important to state what those
expectations are, but there will ALWAYS be some that rely on non-technical
means. The important part about election systems is that they be explicitly
stated, and they be enforceable using non-technical means (e.g., by having
locks on doors). The problem today is that some of the assumptions (e.g.,
the vendor provided software doesn't have any bugs) are clearly unrealistic.
We are talking about voting machines here, not general purpose operating systems! They should be able to restrict and properly (and provably!) secure a reasonably simple dedicated single purpose voting computer.
(4) WRT getting one set of software approved, and then installing another...
that's an old problem in any environment. The way it's supposed to work in
election systems is that a particular version is approved, and it's illegal
for the vendor to install something different. If there are teeth in the
law, and the vendor can be fined for installing illegal software, then it's
A fine? No. They just be blacklisted from ever supplying voting machines to
the government again. Screwing up elections is not like hitting a red light
when there is nobody around.
Bottom line, election systems are no different than any other systems in that the security of the whole system is based on risk management.
But I guess no one trusts the US government itself anymore if even Europe is sending officials to watch over the elections:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3666898.stm
And to counter your arguments, the Netherlands has open sourced its voting
system. You can download and verify it at http://www.ososs.nl/
Paul
-- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. http://immunix.com/~crispin/ CTO, Immunix http://immunix.com
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