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[Snort-users] Fwd: [ASK] Silent Interface??

Subject: [Snort-users] Fwd: [ASK] Silent Interface??
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:14:09 -0500
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From: Rachmat Hidayat Al-Anshar <rachmat_hidayat_02@yahoo.com>
Date: December 21, 2007 10:02:30 PM EST
To: Joel Esler <joel.esler@sourcefire.com>
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] [ASK] Silent Interface??
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Hi Joel

Um, I do need your suggestion here,
According to my topology below, what should I use so the sensor can "silently" monitoring
the traffic. In my condition now, not allowing me to use switch with SPAN or network tap device.
For a research I substitute the switch with hub (^^!). With this condition, I think that
the sensor interface (marked with X) have to silently implemented (with no IP address), but
my problem is, I have no idea how to make the interface with no IP (because if not statically assigned
with IP address, the system offering me DHCP options there is no option to void the ip).


how is it?

Original Message ----
From: Joel Esler <joel.esler@sourcefire.com>
To: Rachmat Hidayat Al-Anshar <rachmat_hidayat_02@yahoo.com>
Cc: snort <Snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:36:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] [ASK] Silent Interface??

A tap is usually external to the box.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_tap

Traffic flows through the tap and the tap copies the traffic and sends it to the sensor.

--
Joel Esler
joel.esler@sourcefire.com




On Dec 21, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Rachmat Hidayat Al-Anshar wrote:

Ok..
Network taps and port mirroring..

I think I understand how the port mirroring works, but, for network tap, how can I do this technically?
um..the cable that used for tapping, is it connecting the sensor interface with port on the switch? or what?


In this case, I has already configured the sensor to communicate with active response agent locate in the firewall.
So I need to assign an IP address to the interface connected to gateway (also operate as firewall).


I use TSL (Trustix Secure Linux) as a sensor, firewall, and servers. How can I make the sensor interface unassigns
(without IP assigned), AFAIK, the other choices if we didn't statically assign the IP address is DHCP. How about this?



----- Original Message ---- From: JJC <cummingsj@gmail.com> To: snort <Snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:09:12 PM Subject: Re: [Snort-users] [ASK] Silent Interface??

A second option would be to use port mirroring (or in the Cisco world "SPAN"), this assumes that your switches support this feature. In either the tap or port mirror scenario, the listening interface(s) do not need DHCP or an IP address configured. It is, in fact, generally recommended that you not have an address assigned to the interface that will be sniffing the traffic. That said, you typically will have two or more interfaces on your snort box, one for doing the sniffing (this one without an ip and connected to the mirrored port) and the other for management of the system itself and connected to your internal network .

Cheers,
JJC
http://global-security.blogspot.com

On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, Gould, Scott < scott.gould@gogstats.org> wrote:
Mat,


You can place network taps between the gateway and switch in your diagram. These taps have a monitor port that will connect to the sensor, and in turn send a copy of all the traffic seen by the tap to the sensor.

Scott Gould
Senior Network & Systems Analyst
Gynecologic Oncology Group
Statistical & Data Center
scott dot gould at gogstats dot org

From: snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net ] On Behalf Of Rachmat Hidayat Al-Anshar
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:10 PM
To: snort
Subject: [Snort-users] [ASK] Silent Interface??


Hi guys...

Straightforward, I just wanna know deeper about "silent interface" that we might use on sensors.
I have a topology like this:


y
INTERNET ---- gateway ----- sensor
| | x
| |
+-------- switch --------- gateway ------- INTRANET
|
|
-------------
| | |
(servers on DMZ)


is it true that we can use the sensor interface silently monitoring the traffic flowing accross the switch ?
(marked with x)??


if the answers is correct, then how can i do that??

is it with use the dhcp on in? or what??

Thanks in advance
Any response will greatly appreciated
Mat (^^)

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