I'm in, and I think that'd be an excellent way to get us all on the same
page.
Great idea Alan.
Matt
Alan Shimel wrote:
Hopefully this will not bounce, as I registered this email address on
the list.
With all of the back and forth regarding these issues I would like to
invite Marty, Matt Jonkman, Victor and maybe some of the other folks who
have written to appear on my podcast that I do weekly. We can do it
with either with live call ins for questions or have people submit their
questions. I think it will be a great chance to clear the air and give
everyone their say and then hopefully put these issues to bed once and
for all. Marty, Matt, Victor, et al, what do you say? Would you be
willing to get on a panel and discuss these issues?
Let me know
alan
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[mailto:snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] *On Behalf Of *Matt
Jonkman
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:48 PM
*To:* Martin Roesch; Snort Users
*Cc:* Bleeding Sigs
*Subject:* [Snort-users] [Bleeding-sigs] RE: What's up with Snort's license?
Appreciate the reply Marty. I'm the person who said you'd slipped this
in on
a Friday before a long weekend. I mentioned that because that's what
happened the last time SF did something and then didn't communicate with
the
community for weeks afterwards. 3.0 license release I think it was maybe? I
forget. But had someone mentioned that you had to do this in a rush because
of outside factors we'd have known different....
And that time, and the time before, (and probably the time before that
IIRC)
you said SF was in the wrong by not putting out a note that something was
changing right away, or even that you had to do something and would be
explaining it shortly. When SF goes into a communication blackout it's
quite
obvious. The "I'm too busy" thing frankly doesn't sound plausible. Over two
weeks is more than enough time for anyone to send out an email that says
"We're aware of the situation, we'll update you shortly". If you were
spending the time waiting for legal review then say so. And let us know up
front that's what we're waiting for. Otherwise you just foment the
conspiracy theories and undermine the corporate confidence that snort will
remain stable and community oriented. But I think we've had this
conversation before, so I won't beat the dead horse any longer.
I haven't a problem with you protecting code and your rights, but the
willy-nilly changing of others copyright is not something that should
happen
by accident. That's not like changing the colors on a website, that's
sacred
ground. Rushing through that was a huge hit to trust.
So my questions:
Will the coders that have more than trivial portions of code in snort be
receiving a proportional chunk of the money you make when on relicensing
Snort under the commercial license? Future and historical contracts? That
seems a fair thing to do, unless you intend to buy out their copyright?
That'd be fair as well. But in protecting the authors of Snort (yourself
and
others), you've got to consider all of them when the money flows.
If they're not to be reimbursed under your relicensing revenue, do they
then
also have the right to sell snort under a commercial license of their own?
Why's CVS down still? Why was it down in the first place?
Have you had the time now to identify exactly what issues in GPLv3 are an
issue for SF? I've seen talk of the patent prohibition stuff as being a
possible issue. Is that what's a concern for SF?
To be clear: I do appreciate your stewardship of Snort. Better
communication
would not put so many into a default hostile and suspicious stance.
Matt
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[mailto:snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:49 AM
To: Snort Users
Subject: [Snort-users] What's up with Snort's license?
Hi everyone,
I posted this message on my blog a few minutes ago, please read it
and let me know what you think if you're interested in Snort
licensing issues.
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