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Re: [Snort-users] rules downloads and

Subject: Re: [Snort-users] rules downloads and
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:29:55 -0700 (PDT)
I tell ya personally I wouldn't be relying on anything
too heavily when it involves FREE software/services. I
would always expect the worse to happen and be
prepared for it. Snort can drop the product at the
drop of a hat and wouldn't be any worse off for it. I
bet they've been planning for years as to how they're
going to do just that. So far, it looks like a very
slow and gradual move from free software to paid. 

I leave the real protections of our networks to 
devices and services we pay for.

Cheese!

Marc


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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:52:33 -0500
From: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu>
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] rules downloads and
scalability
To: Eric Hines <eric.hines@appliedwatch.com>
Cc: Jason Haar <Jason.Haar@trimble.co.nz>,
      snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net,      Martin Roesch
      <roesch@sourcefire.com>
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--On Monday, September 18, 2006 11:06:09 -0500 Eric
Hines 
<eric.hines@appliedwatch.com> wrote:

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I suppose Sourcefire's thinking is, which I think
makes sense, say you
download new rules at 9am and a new worm or pretty
nasty exploit
surfaces at noon. Then, new Snort signatures are
released at 3:00pm. If
it were limited to once a day, you wouldn't be
able to grab those rules
until 12:01am the next day :/

But then again, you wouldn't be able to get them
that quickly unless you
were a VRT paid subscriber.. so that doesn't make
sense.. :/ hmm..  I
can't answer that one..


:-)

Ok, here's another idea :) You have several Snort
management solutions,
each with its own method of managing Snort rules
(we've got several
customers like this) where you use your oink code
to download rules for
Snort management solution A and then you need to
do the same for Snort
management solution B. You can't download rules
for B until the next
day, so B will always be 1 day behind.


Here's a thought.  How about managing your own stuff
instead of expecting 
the vendor to do it for you?

Write a script that checks for new rules and
downloads them if it finds 
them.  Make sure the site is only accessible inside
your own network.  (No 
sense in violating the rules and losing your rights
to downloading the 
rules.)  Cron it for once a day, every six hours,
whatever floats your 
boat.  Then point *all* your oinkmaster installs to
the *local* site where 
the downloaded rules exist.  Or use one oinkmaster
install to download the 
file and then point all the other oinkmaster
installs to *that* file.  Then 
cron it as you like.

Problem solved.

That about does it for me :) I suppose the answer
to your question is,
why not? Why tie people's hands more than you
actually need to.. if
every 15 minutes addresses the issue for
Sourcefire, why do it longer
like 24 hours?


I guess my answer would be why let the vendor manage
your installation for 
you as opposed to actively taking care of your own
stuff in a way that 
works best for *you*?

Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
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