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Re: [Snort-sigs] SNMP Missing Community String Signature FP

Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] SNMP Missing Community String Signature FP
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:11:14 -0500
Hi Blake,

Thanks for your insight. Actually. the packet was provided from Snort. I cut the IP header for security reasons. What you are looking at is starting from the first byte of the payload.

In speaking to a few others, we're noticing offset is being used after depth instead of before, does the order matter? It looks as if the contributor(s) for the rule are Brian, Nigel/Sourcefire Research Team.

Can anyone from Sourcefire VRT explain whats happening with this rule and why its firing on these packets despite the depth/offset options?

Best Regards,

Eric S. Hines, GCIA, CISSP
CEO, President, Chairman
Applied Watch Technologies, LLC


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Applied Watch Technologies, LLC

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Blake Hartstein wrote:
Eric,
Where exactly did you get that packet? (tcpdump format?)

If so, chances are you are seeing the headers and the start of the payload starts later in the packet, which is my initial guess, send me a pcap and I would be happy to analyze it for you.

-Blake




Eric Hines wrote:
All:

Please ignore the initial explanation in this first email. I'm trying to understand why Snort is firing on these packets when |04 00| is outside the 15 byte depth, starting counting from the 5th byte offset. Is the rule written wrong?

Best Regards,

Eric S. Hines, GCIA, CISSP
CEO, President, Chairman
Applied Watch Technologies, LLC


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Eric S. Hines, GCIA, CISSP
CEO, President, Chairman
Applied Watch Technologies, LLC

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Email:   eric.hines@appliedwatch.com
Address: 1095 Pingree Road
         Suite 213
         Crystal Lake, IL
         60014
Tel:     (877) 262-7593 ext:327
Local:   (847) 854-5831
Fax:     (847) 854-5106
Web:     http://www.appliedwatch.com

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Security Management for the Open Source Enterprise





Eric Hines wrote:
All:

SID #: 1893 (SNMP missing community string attempt) sets a depth max of 15 bytes. This signature is improperly firing on several of our networks as a lot of different devices will set the community string deeper than 15 bytes.

Is this happening frequently enough for everyone else out there to propose a modification to this rule to have the depth increased or eliminated, or do you guys consider this to be a local tuning responsibility of the administrator?

Has anyone else had this problem?

Snort Team: Should we submit this using the Snort signature template for submitting False Positives? All 50,000 alerts in one day for this signature were FPs :)

Where do we draw the line on a signature using too tight of a Depth/Offset, etc.. being a False Positive or User-specific tuning?

----- snip ------

alert UDP $EXTERNAL_NET any -> $HOME_NET 161 (msg:"SNMP missing community string attempt"; content:"|04 00|"; depth:15; offset:5;reference:bugtraq,2112; reference:cve,1999-0517; classtype:misc-attack; sid:1893; rev:4;)


---- example packet -----

0fdd 00a1 0033 d483 3029 0201 0004 0670         .......3..0).....p
7562 6c69 63a0 1c02 0400 a063 f602 0100 0201    ublic......c......
0030 0e30 0c06 082b 0601 0201 0103 0005 00      .0.0...+.........



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