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| Subject: | [Snort-sigs] RE: Snort-sigs digest, Vol 1 #1648 - 3 msgs help |
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| Date: | Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:35:01 +0200 |
Hi, I'd like to unsubscribe... Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: snort-sigs-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:snort-sigs-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of snort-sigs-request@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:10 AM To: snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Snort-sigs digest, Vol 1 #1648 - 3 msgs Send Snort-sigs mailing list submissions to snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/snort-sigs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to snort-sigs-request@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at snort-sigs-admin@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Snort-sigs digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bleedingsnort.com Daily Update (Brian Caswell) 2. Re: Bleedingsnort.com Daily Update (Matt Jonkman) 3. Re: Alert rules (Lorine Ruotolo) --__--__-- Message: 1 Cc: snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net From: Brian Caswell <bmc@snort.org> Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Bleedingsnort.com Daily Update Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:51:41 -0500 To: bleeding@bleedingsnort.com On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:00 PM, bleeding@bleedingsnort.com wrote:
2402000 - BLEEDING-EDGE DROP Dshield Block Listed Source (bleeding- dshield.rules) 2403000 - BLEEDING-EDGE DROP Dshield Block Listed Source - BLOCKING (bleeding-dshield-BLOCK.rules)
So, I don't see much discussion about these rules. Heck, I don't think I've seen any. What is the point in these rules? Snort can do many things, in fact, if I care to update a plugin I wrote many many many years ago, it can even make coffee... but why make Snort a firewall? Wouldn't it be much faster to have the firewall do this work, not Snort? Brian --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:25:12 -0500 From: Matt Jonkman <mjonkman@infotex.com> To: Brian Caswell <bmc@snort.org> CC: bleeding@bleedingsnort.com, snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Bleedingsnort.com Daily Update Brian Caswell wrote:
So, I don't see much discussion about these rules. Heck, I don't
think
I've seen any. What is the point in these rules?
To drop inbound attacks from dshield listed hosts, and to detect outbound traffic to them. (outbound has turned out to be more interesting actually)
Snort can do many things, in fact, if I care to update a plugin I
wrote
many many many years ago, it can even make coffee... but why make
Snort
a firewall? Wouldn't it be much faster to have the firewall do this work, not Snort?
Mostly because these update very often, hourly if you like. We already have an automated way to push sigs to many places, we don't have an automated way to push firewall rules to many devices on a daily/hourly basis. In our case, we don't review all firewall logs in realtime, and wouldn't necessarily notice these log entries among the noise. So it's a very easy way to get this pushed, and to easily see hits on it through existing channels. Matt -------------------------------------------- Matthew Jonkman, CISSP Senior Security Engineer Infotex 765-429-0398 Direct Anytime 765-448-6847 Office 866-679-5177 24x7 NOC my.infotex.com www.offsitefilter.com www.bleedingsnort.com -------------------------------------------- :wq --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Lorine Ruotolo" <lori.ruotolo@hotmail.com> To: sornatale@hotmail.com Cc: snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Alert rules Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:41:30 -0600 By CREATE a connection, are you referring to a SYN packet? (The first packet in a TCP handshake) I think you may wish to look up the "flags" option in rule writing. flags: S;
From: Jason <security@brvenik.com> To: FRANK SORNATALE <sornatale@hotmail.com> CC: snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Alert rules Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:24:16 -0500 Hi Frank, As always the devil is in the details. I've put some questions inline
to
hopefully help you along the way. FRANK SORNATALE wrote:I worked on these rules and I was wondering if you could let me know what I could be missing. 3. Create an alert for any outgoing packets that list the CUPS
protocol.
Alert tcp any any -> any 514 (msg:"someone is printing"; classtype: bad_unknown; sid: 20099997; rev:1;)This detects traffic ( tcp ) to port 514. Not sure syslog has anything to do with CUPS. Does CUPS use tcp? Does it use 514? Is CUPS even it's own thing? Do you need to identify the protocol as the task suggests?4. Create an alert for any packet that attempts to CREATE an ssh connection. Alert tcp any any -> any 22 (msg:"someone using ssh"; classtype:bad_unkown; sid: 20099996; rev:1;)This will detect connects to port 22 but that does not mean there is an attempt to create an SSH session. How specific should these rules be to the stated task?5. Create an alert for any packet whose contents contain the word
"bard"
(not case sensitive). Alert tcp any any -> $HOME_NET any (msg:"Someone used the word bard
in
an email or other communications"; content: "bard"; nocase; flow:from_server,established; classtype:bad_unknown; sid:20099995;rev:1;) This will attack bard in tcp traffic headed to any system in HOME_NET. Is that any packet? can bard exist in UDP? can bard exist without creating a three way handshake?6. Create an alert for any incoming packets on port 53 whose
contents
contains 'ucf.edu'. alert tcp any 53 -> $HOME_NET (msg:"Someone using ucf.edu"; content:"ucf.edu" flow:from_server,established; sid:20099995; rev:1;This rule would catch packets _sourced_ from port 53. Shouldn't that be destination port 53? Can ucf.edu exist in non tcp traffic? You are making progress. keep it up.From: Hugo van der Kooij <hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org> Reply-To: snort-sigs mailinglist <snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net> To: snort-sigs mailinglist <snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Alert rules Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:24:47 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Brian Caswell wrote:Please do not write these rules for Frank. Frank is trying to
get
you to do his homework for him. When he asked me for help
earlier, I
pointed him at the manual. He needs to learn, not cheat.Somehow the neat list of 10 did trigger some bells. Then there were
somerules that did not make any sense for a real life network to finish
it
off. Hugo. -- I hate duplicates. Just reply to the relevant mailinglist. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of magicians, for they are subtle and quick to anger. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the
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