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RE: [Snort-sigs] Bleeding rules virus and threshold issue

Subject: RE: [Snort-sigs] Bleeding rules virus and threshold issue
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:30:21 -0700
Matt,

Newp...I just updated the bleeding rules just now for giggles...same
thing...really wild.  Here's the config file sans sensative stuff ;)

------------------START-------------------
var HOME_NET [24.116.255.102/32,192.168.0.0/24]
var INTERNAL [24.116.255.102/32,192.168.0.0/24]
var EXTERNAL_NET !$HOME_NET
var EXTERNAL !$HOME_NET
var DNS_SERVERS [24.116.255.102,192.168.0.1]
var SMTP_SERVERS [24.116.255.102,192.168.0.1]
var HTTP_SERVERS $HOME_NET [24.116.255.102,192.168.0.1]
var SQL_SERVERS 127.0.0.1
var TELNET_SERVERS 127.0.0.1
var SNMP_SERVERS 127.0.0.1
var HTTP_PORTS 80
var SHELLCODE_PORTS !80
var ORACLE_PORTS 1521
var AIM_SERVERS
[64.12.24.0/23,64.12.28.0/23,64.12.161.0/24,64.12.163.0/24,64.12.200.0/24,20
5.188.3.0/24,205.188.5.0/24,205.188.7.0/24,205.188.9.0/24,205.188.153.0/24,2
05.188.179.0/24,205.188.248.0/24]
var RULE_PATH /etc/snort/rules
config layer2resets: 00:04:75:80:DC:08
preprocessor flow: stats_interval 0 hash 2
preprocessor frag2
preprocessor stream4: detect_state_problems, disable_evasion_alerts
preprocessor stream4_reassemble: both, ports [all]
preprocessor http_inspect: global \
    iis_unicode_map unicode.map 1252 
preprocessor http_inspect_server: server default \
    profile all ports { 80 8080 } oversize_dir_length 500
preprocessor rpc_decode: 111 32771
preprocessor bo
preprocessor telnet_decode
preprocessor flow-portscan: \
        talker-sliding-scale-factor 0.50 \
        talker-fixed-threshold 30 \
        talker-sliding-threshold 30 \
        talker-sliding-window 20 \
        talker-fixed-window 30 \
        scoreboard-rows-talker 30000 \
        server-watchnet [24.116.255.102/32] \
        server-ignore-limit 200 \
        server-rows 65535 \
        server-learning-time 14400 \
        server-scanner-limit 4 \
        scanner-sliding-window 20 \
        scanner-sliding-scale-factor 0.50 \
        scanner-fixed-threshold 15 \
        scanner-sliding-threshold 40 \
        scanner-fixed-window 15 \
        scoreboard-rows-scanner 30000 \
        src-ignore-net [192.168.1.1/32,192.168.0.0/24,24.116.255.102/32] \
        alert-mode once \
        output-mode msg \
        tcp-penalties on
preprocessor sfportscan: proto  { all } \
                         memcap { 10000000 } \
                         ignore_scanners { 24.116.255.102 } \
                         sense_level { low }
output alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT
include /etc/snort/classification.config
include /etc/snort/reference.config
include $RULE_PATH/local.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bad-traffic.rules
include $RULE_PATH/exploit.rules
include $RULE_PATH/scan.rules
include $RULE_PATH/finger.rules
include $RULE_PATH/ftp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/telnet.rules
include $RULE_PATH/rpc.rules
include $RULE_PATH/rservices.rules
include $RULE_PATH/dos.rules
include $RULE_PATH/ddos.rules
include $RULE_PATH/dns.rules
include $RULE_PATH/tftp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-cgi.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-coldfusion.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-iis.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-frontpage.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-misc.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-client.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-php.rules
include $RULE_PATH/sql.rules
include $RULE_PATH/x11.rules
include $RULE_PATH/icmp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/netbios.rules
include $RULE_PATH/misc.rules
include $RULE_PATH/attack-responses.rules
include $RULE_PATH/oracle.rules
include $RULE_PATH/mysql.rules
include $RULE_PATH/snmp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/smtp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/imap.rules
include $RULE_PATH/pop2.rules
include $RULE_PATH/pop3.rules
include $RULE_PATH/nntp.rules
include $RULE_PATH/other-ids.rules
include $RULE_PATH/web-attacks.rules
include $RULE_PATH/backdoor.rules
include $RULE_PATH/policy.rules
include $RULE_PATH/porn.rules
include $RULE_PATH/icmp-info.rules
include $RULE_PATH/virus.rules
include $RULE_PATH/experimental.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-attack_response.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-custom.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-dos.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-exploit.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-scan.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-virus.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-web.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-malware.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-virus.rules
include $RULE_PATH/bleeding-inappropriate.rules
include $RULE_PATH/homebox.rules
include $RULE_PATH/vision18.rules
include /etc/snort/threshold.conf
---------------END-----------------

Thanks Gents!!

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Jonkman [mailto:matt@infotex.com]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:27 AM
To: James Lay
Cc: 'Snort-Sigs (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Bleeding rules virus and threshold issue


Do you have the ruleset mentioned twice in your snort.conf?

Snort will load it twice if you do.

If that's not the case please send a snippet of the non-sensitive 
portions of your snort.conf and we can get you fixed up.

Matt

James Lay wrote:
Hrmm

I thought the same thing so I grepped 2001578 in /etc/snort and
/etc/snort/rules:

[07:58:07 jlay@homebox:/etc/snort$] grep 2001578 *
sid-msg.map:2001578 || BLEEDING-EDGE Sober.I Worm outbound detected
[07:58:17 jlay@homebox:/etc/snort$] cd rules
[07:58:26 jlay@homebox:/etc/snort/rules$] grep 2001578 *
bleeding-virus.rules:#alert tcp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 25
(msg:"BLEEDING-EDGE Sober *nuked the rest so I don't set off the rule* ;)

Any other thoughts?

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Jonkman [mailto:matt@infotex.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:43 AM
To: James Lay
Cc: 'Snort-Sigs (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Snort-sigs] Bleeding rules virus and threshold issue


This isn't unusual, you can only have one threshold entry per sid. I'd 
guess you're loading the sigs twice for some reason? Maybe for dual http 
ports or smtp ports variables or something?

At any rate, if you remove the duplicate signatures this'll go away. if 
you need to run with several variables I'd recommend a second instance 
of snort with a a pcap expression limiting to just that port, and 
running just the rules relevant. Lots more efficient I think.

Matt

James Lay wrote:

Hey folks!

Just upgraded to 2.3.0 and here's what I get with 

Feb 19 08:22:43 ns1 snort: FATAL ERROR: Rule-Threshold-Parse: could not
create a threshold object -- only one per sid, sid = 2001578
Feb 19 08:24:19 ns1 snort: FATAL ERROR: Rule-Threshold-Parse: could not
create a threshold object -- only one per sid, sid = 2001573

after nuking all entries in bleeding-virus.rules with "threshold: type
limit" in them snort would fire up.  Any thoughts on this?

James Lay
Network Manager/Security Officer
AmeriBen Solutions/IEC Group
Semper Vigilans!!!



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