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| Subject: | Re: [Snort-sigs] signature for SoulSeek P2P? |
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| Date: | Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:25:45 -0500 |
We've also got this up on bleedingsnort.com:
Matt
Uh, I would think that both of these would be prone to some serious false positive/negative issues. The first rule is whacking an entire class C subnet -- which I somehow doubt that these guys servers use. Even if you can prove me wrong there (which is indeed possible), what happens when they switch their servers' location? The rule's dead. The same problem exists with the second rule, which from looking at the pcap I've got is just watching for this thing to connect to the soulseek servers. What happens if they change their domain name? The rule's hosed.
If we want to have a rule that really pins down Soulseek traffic, we need to be looking at the details of the protocol -- because that's a million times harder for a P2P network to change than their login servers, IP addresses, etc. That in mind, there's two things that jump out at me as pieces to trigger on: the fact that the first four bytes are always a length field, and that there are message codes in the next four bytes (based on the protcol information at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/soleseek/SoleSeek/doc/protocol.html?rev=HEAD).
I still want to look a bit more closely at this thing before I propose any kind of rule, but remember: look at the underlying protocol/vulnerability when writing a rule, don't go for easily changed, sometimes superfluous bits on top. You're more likely to get a solid, lasting rule that way.
Alex Kirk Research Analyst Sourcefire, Inc.
See how these work:
alert tcp $HOME_NET any -> 38.115.131.0/24 2240 (msg:"P2P Soulseek traffic"; classtype:policy-violation; sid:1000001; rev:1;)
alert tcp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"P2P Soulseek"; content:"slsknet"; classtype:policy-violation; sid:1000002; rev:1;)
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From: snort-sigs-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [_mailto:snort-sigs-admin@lists.sourceforge.net_] On Behalf Of twebster@daksoft.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:38 PM
To: snort-sigs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Snort-sigs] signature for SoulSeek P2P?
Does anyone have a snort signature to detect SoulSeek (_www.slsknet.org_ <http://mailcenter2.comcast.net/wm/toolbar/www.slsknet.org>) file sharing traffic?
thanks
tony
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