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Re: bank audit pen test

Subject: Re: bank audit pen test
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:16:30 -0700
Regarding a pen-test as an audit of security is simply foolish -- a pen-test is merely an indication of conditions at the time of the test, nothing more. A pen-test does not provide any indicate that there are ongoing and consistent processes in place to ensure the conditions tested are maintained.

Also, in the US (and most countries with CA, CPA, or similar designations) you cannot legally attest to an audit unless you hold an appropriate accounting designation.

Louie wrote:

Keenen,
I was in a IT security consulting firm that conduct pent-test and etc for external clients. From my experience...technically, u can be sued. What my ex-company did was....include a "clause" in the contract saying that you or your company should not be held responsible if the company that you audited been hacked in the future. The arguement is....hackers always find new ways/ideas to hack. So, after an audit exercise doesnt mean that the company that you audited is 100% bullet proof. It is just to "minimized the risk". Hope that answer your questions.


Regards,

Louie Low



----- Original Message ----- From: "Keenen Milner" <kmilner@ghcllc.com>
To: "Coreappsecurity Mailing List" <CoreAppSecurity@bankinfosecurity.com>; <security-management@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:03 AM
Subject: bank audit pen test



I have a different twist on the bank audit question.

If as part of the audit, you perform a pen test and the bank gets hack
the day after you deliver your results, can you be sued? I know anyone
can sue anyone for anything but how can you realistically reduce the
chance you get sued.

Best Regards,
Keenen
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