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| Subject: | RE: IT Department Size |
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| Date: | Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:12:48 -0800 |
I quite agree with Steven. It has been my experience that the ratio, whatever it is, is valid for your company, whatever it is. Which is another way of saying there is no such thing, or, at least, not a meaningful thing. Once you determine what is right for your company, then you know what it is for your company, but not anyone else's. The number might allow you to project staffing needs several years ahead with reasonable accuracy - for your company. However, a 1:250 ratio for one company will likely not hold for another company, even if it is similar in size, structure, and industry. So much depends on so many variables - brand of hardware/software, age of same, geographical distribution of assets, nature of business, legal/regulatory requirements, types and extent of business relationships, experience level of technical staff, experience level of employees, and on and on, that it's impossible to categorically state a ratio and have it be anything more than vapor-stats. Older equipment running a diversity of software by lesser-experienced technical staff for inexperienced users might require a 1:50 ratio. But, even new hardware might require a lot of tending, if it runs some quirky software for rookie users. A company with numerous branch offices (such as banks, sales, fast food, etc), will need more people to cover the geographic area. It just all depends. The best starting place is a nice, round, even number, which is then quickly adjusted up or down, depending on the horrified gasps of the senior management or the agonized screams of the end-users (some of which may be senior management). Try 1:100 or 1:200, and see where that gets you. Remember that the number will still not be really meaningful, though, as you did not ask what the best structure was, you simply asked for numbers (you're not an accountant, by any chance, are you?). If you have three rookie PC Technicians working for one experienced Network Administrator, you might have four staffers but be able to get the work done of six. Or, the Network Administrator might be flooded with difficult support calls and four might not be enough. It still just depends. What I can say is that a company that is highly technically oriented might require more IT staff than one with simpler technical needs, especially at the beginning. This is because the company will still be building it's computing infrastructure, and needs the additional staff to get things built and supported. Remember that the more technical a company's needs are (computers, networks, security, VoIP, videoconferencing, IT staff that does phones too, etc), the more staff it will need. It seems also true that the ratio increases as the company grows, so a company that needed a 1:150 ratio at one time might need 1:250 when it is five times it's original size. Chuck Hutchings CISSP, CISA, CISM Information Security Consultant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Allison (DHL US)" To: Rami.Prescott@frostbank.com, security-management@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: IT Department Size Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:54:31 -0700 Rami, The rule of thumb to your question is. "it depends." It depends on the actual size of your organization. A 1:250 ratio may work for a company with 1000 employees but for a company of 500,000 employees, the ratio is more like 1:5000. It depends on the risk level of your company and industry. An IT or financial based company (MCI, AT&T, American Express, VISA, Wells Fargo Bank, etc.) would require a better administrator:person or administrator:system ratio than a company such a DHL (shipping company). It depends on what regulations you must adhere to and how many personnel it takes to ensure compliance (regardless of number of systems or personnel in the company). I'm quite sure the group here could expand on any of my points or add 50 more. What I think you need to do is assess the level of risk your organization and what it takes to fulfill your ~sigh~ Business Continuity Plan. Staffing is such a sticky issue. If you ask the manager how many personnel he needs to fulfill his obligation to the organization, it will be far more than the VP three levels above him thinks. There is no clear answer to your question and it only looks like I've raised more questions for you. But sometimes, the travel is half the fun of getting to the destination...or not. Best Regards, Steven R. Allison, CISSP Information Security Manager, Americas Region DHL Express 8701 E. Hartford Dr. Scottsdale, AZ. 85255 Phone: 480-375-6490 Cellular: 480-226-2495 FAX: 480-375-7039 Steven.Allison@dhl.com "You have enemies? Good. That means you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rami.Prescott@frostbank.com [mailto:Rami.Prescott@frostbank.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:32 PM To: security-management@securityfocus.com Subject: IT Department Size Would anyone know of a good place to find information on how large a system administrator/ network engineering department should be? The general rule of thumb I've heard is 1 system administrator/network engineer for every 250 users. Is this generally true in practice? We define system administrator/network engineer as someone who has 5-10 years experience in all OS and who is responsible for the operating system and hardware. Thank you, Rami Prescott IT Audit
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