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RE: diff btw BD 7799, ISF Security Standard, ITIL and others..

Subject: RE: diff btw BD 7799, ISF Security Standard, ITIL and others..
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:00:14 -0500
Great comment Matthew,

Just to complement on your comment, be aware Nabil that both CoBIT and
ISO17799 have control objectives surrounding compliancy, service level
agreement, and contractual engagement toward customers and from
providers.

It is true that IA normally supports, and are more familiar with CoBIT
but CoBIT is quite large.  The nice thing about it tough is that it
embeds ISO17799 requirements.

My 2 cents

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Caston [mailto:mattcaston@mchsi.com] 
Sent: January 11, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Newcomb, Kelly
Cc: security-management@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: diff btw BD 7799, ISF Security Standard, ITIL and others..

Nabil,
I would suggest detailing why you want a standard before proceeding - 
while it's always a good idea to check with the auditors/lawyers first, 
you should set some core objectives and then refer to the available 
standards to determine which can help you get to a stable endpoint.  No 
standard can be wholesale transplanted into your specific organization 
without modification.  What are you looking to get out of implementing 
standards?  Cost savings/operational excellence/risk 
management/QOS....what do your customers (read: users) want/need??

If your objectives are simply controls/compliance (eg. SOX), based, your

Auditors will likely endorse CoBIT/COSO.  However, if you're looking to 
standardize policy, process and procedure then ITIL and ISO/BS  can 
help.  There are some decent 101-level articles/papers in the SANS 
reading room which you might want to review.  Either way, define your 
objectives and then see which approach best suites those objectives.

Regards.....


Newcomb, Kelly wrote:

You might try talking with your auditor(s) and ask them which
"standard"
they will be measuring you against. That might help with your
direction.

Hope this helps...
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-----Original Message-----
From: NabilM@kuveytturk.com.tr [mailto:NabilM@kuveytturk.com.tr] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:45 AM
To: security-management@securityfocus.com
Subject: diff btw BD 7799, ISF Security Standard, ITIL and others..

Fellows,

Can some one point me too some article(s), or summarize me the
difference between these IT Security Standards including BD 7799, ISF
Security Standard, ITIL and others. I read some where that BS 7799 is
less like a standard and more like security practices that enable one
to
build and tailor a security standard for his/her particular
organization. On the other hand, ISF standard was prepared by taking BS
7799 into account. I plan to implement a standard this year for my org,
and I am in the process of comparing the available ones. Any help in
this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-Nabil.


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