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| Subject: | Re: Outside Penetration Testing and FERPA |
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| Date: | Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:30:31 -0600 |
(1) Unless you are familiar with the particular institution's public data policy or by-law, I'm not sure how you'd even know if accessing the particular student data elements are a violation of FERPA (each institutions' definition of what constitutes public directory information can be different), (2) I would have hoped that your organization's legal agreement would have indemnified you from liability as well as required you to not disclose any data or information you uncovered, and (3) As an outside consultant hired to perform penetration tests, it would seem to me that you have an obligation to inform the institution of their system's and network's vulnerabilities ASAP (after all, that is probably why they hired you...). So, it seems that as long as you (a) were not scanning someone's network without their knowledge/permission, (b) do not disclose what you found, and (c) inform the institution as soon as possible, you wouldn't have to worry about any FERPA exemption or loop-hole. It sounds like an the institution outsourced its penetration testing responsibility to you and your company and, as a contractor, you have an need (as well as moral obligation and perhaps a legal one) to keep what you may have learned confidential while also reporting it to your customer. Michael G. Carr, Esq., CISSP CSN Information Security Officer University of Nebraska 3835 Holdrege St, 227 Varner Hall PO Box 830742 Lincoln, NE 68583-0742 direct: (402) 472-1349 cell: (402) 450-6622 fax: (402) 472-2038 mcarr@nebraska.edu Ann Ymous <ann.ymous@gmail.com> 12/01/2004 10:55 AM Please respond to Ann Ymous <ann.ymous@gmail.com> To Pen Test List <pen-test@securityfocus.com>, Security Mgmt List <security-management@securityfocus.com>, Unisog <unisog@lists.sans.org> cc Subject Outside Penetration Testing and FERPA I apologize for cross posting, but I would like to get feedback from each of the addressed lists. My group performs penetration tests for government agencies, universities and school districts. We feel that having an outside entity perform these tests improves the overall security posture of the institution and results in stronger protection. However, in the course of our engagements with universities and school districts, we have recovered student records and other identifiable information. These discoveries would appear to be a violation of FERPA and place the institution in jeopardy of loosing federal funds. I have discussed this matter with our attorneys and they have not found an exemption or loophole in FERPA that would allow for third-party security testing, that may result in the disclosure of student information. Has anyone addressed this matter directly? If so, how have you dealt with the issue?
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