Ethical Hacking Learn to find vulnerabilities before the bad guys do! Gain real world hands on hacking experience in our state of the art hacking lab. Course designed and taught by expert instructors with years of penetration testing experience. 12 student maximum in every class. Certification attempt included in every package. | Computer Forensics Training at InfoSec Institute Gain the in-demand skills of a certified computer examiner, learn to recover trace data left behind by fraud, theft, and cybercrime perpetrators. Discover the source of computer crime and abuse at your organization so that it never happens again. All of our class sizes are guaranteed to be 12 students or less to facilitate one-on-one interaction with one of our expert instructors. |

| Subject: | Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network |
|---|---|
| Date: | Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:17:38 -0500 |
The discussion here has mostly revolved around blocking ICMP to web hosts and why it is/not a good idea, but what really has not been mentioned is how. Usually admins who are set on doing so will block it at either the router or firewall level, not the host. This can create additional problems, including limiting access to your host. If you block all of ICMP, you block not just the echo reply requests but the errors as well. This can create a problem known as a "black hole connection". Wikipedia: "Many 'security' devices incorrectly block all ICMP messages, including the errors that are necessary for PMTUD to work. This can result in connections that complete the TCP three-way handshake correctly, but then hang when data is transferred. This state is referred to as a "black hole connection"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMTU ICMP is necessary for Internet traffic and blocking it can lead to problems that are not easily resolvable. Ironically, Microsoft advises not to block ICMP traffic in a router and to replace the router if you cannot configure it to.
From KB:314825 "How to Troubleshoot Black Hole Router Issues" under
"Fixing or Working Around a Black Hole Router"
"Configure intermediate routers to send ICMP Type 3 Code 4 messages
("destination unreachable, don't fragment (DF) bit sent and
fragmentation required"). This might require a router software or
firmware upgrade, router reconfiguration, or router replacement."
--
Mark Owen
| <Prev in Thread] | Current Thread | [Next in Thread> |
|---|---|---|
| ||
| Previous by Date: | FreeBSD PRISM GT support, Corben Dallas |
|---|---|
| Next by Date: | Re: FW/IPS log correlation software, Gleb Paharenko |
| Previous by Thread: | Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network, Jason |
| Next by Thread: | Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network, Jason |
| Indexes: | [Date] [Thread] [Top] [All Lists] |