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R: Removing ping/icmp from a network

Subject: R: Removing ping/icmp from a network
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:33:38 +0100
I let icmp flowing into internal network, but usually don't like to let outside 
ping my published servers.

A user could blame on "cannot open web page", but I expect an average network 
troubleshooter don't rely on ping on internet:
after all, I find LOTS of routers in my path to remote sites which drop 
traceroutes.

Everyone in between is either a script kiddie, or somebody just playing around 
with ping sweep/basic portscan.


I use icmp on internet just to check whether my ISP has problems going out (as 
it happens quite frequently :( ), 
thus stopping after the 4th-5th hop.

Idserve (from www.grc.com) is out there, and at worst, you can make some sort 
of "tcp ping" (e.g. a telnet on port 80).

Ivan

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com] Per 
conto di Mark Owen
Inviato: giovedì 27 marzo 2008 18.09
A: Jason
Cc: Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers; security-basics@securityfocus.com
Oggetto: Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Jason <securitux@gmail.com> wrote:
*snip*
 The idea is to limit your Internet footprint to make it as difficult  
as possible for an attacker. There is no need for a web server to  
respond to ping from the Internet for example.

It is very critical that your web server responds to ICMP on the Internet.  If 
you go out of the way and ignore essential protocols for IP over a public 
network, you're just going to create a headache for all of us.

Without ICMP, it is very difficult for us to determine where a problem exists 
when our clients complain about slow load times or inaccessibility to your 
website.  No ICMP means no basic trace routing, no basic latency checks, and no 
basic error reporting.  So even if the problem is somewhere in our 
infrastructure that limits or prevents access to your site, you're going to get 
the blame and bad reputation of an unstable server.  If it doesn't respond to 
ping, and can't be traced, its not our fault that our client can't access your 
site, it's yours.

--
Mark Owen

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