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Re: Firewall rulebase audit

Subject: Re: Firewall rulebase audit
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:38:18 +0100
Yes Craig, but I don't know any testing tool with no need of human
intervention for, at least, the first tests..

Once U tune up everything according to your needs, U just have to
rerun the tests.

But I also agree that too much automation is bad for U, specially when
security is at stake..

Captain Bock

On 10/25/07, Craig Wright <Craig.Wright@bdo.com.au> wrote:
As I said, it is still a manual process where tools can aid.

FTester has a large manual component. The file - "ftest.conf" has to be
created separately (manually) for every system, range of policies etc.

Regards,
Craig Wright
GSE-Compliance



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-----Original Message-----

From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]
On Behalf Of Captain Bock
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 1:19 AM
To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Fwd: Firewall rulebase audit

I used FTester in a recent test campaign with very interesting results.

U can find this at:
http://dev.inversepath.com/trac/ftester

All the best

Captain Bock


On 10/24/07, Craig Wright <Craig.Wright@bdo.com.au> wrote:
These are a manual process. Tools may aid in the process, but it is
still a process of comparing config to policy (and hopefully one
exists).

No tool can decide what is good for a firm/company. Tools will help
extract the data, but to my knowledge there is no expert system that
will analyse a company security policy and map it to a list of ingress
and egress filters. (Maybe a good topic for a hopeful PhD candidate in
Computational Linguistics, Computational learning and Security).

Regards,
Craig S Wright
GSE-Compliance



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-----Original Message-----

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On Behalf Of Kevin Ortloff
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 2:09 AM
To: Roman; jctx09@yahoo.com
Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Firewall rulebase audit

I would say that the best audit for firewalls are manual. There are
tools that can point things out to you, but usually I run nessus or
similar from the outside to gain knowledge of open ports, then I
manually go through the acl's. Once, that's cleaned up, look at your
object groups, hit counters, and translations.



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On Behalf Of Roman Shirokov
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:09 AM
To: jctx09@yahoo.com
Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Firewall rulebase audit

Hi

You can check check  this:

CIS Level 1 & 2 Benchmarks and Audit Tool for Cisco IOS Routers and
PIX
firewalls.

http://cisecurity.org/bench_cisco.html

I have a pair of PIX firewalls that I need to audit. I was hoping to
get some guidelines for doing this. Antyhing specific to PIX would
be
even better.


1) What is the best/easiest way to document a current policy?
Spreadsheet?? I would like to know what ports (services) are open
and
to where? Also duplicates, etc.? Would it be best just to put it in
a
spreadsheet? Is there a tool for this?


2)Is there standard Analysis checklist to go by when reviewing a
(PIX)
firewall policy?


Any help is highly appreciated.


Thank you,

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