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RE: New Spam Technique

Subject: RE: New Spam Technique
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:58 -0400
Our anti-spam engine catches many of them so they don't even make it into our 
"mail stream."  We use Trend's ScanMail product which examines all email coming 
in so what the anti-spam doesn't catch and move to junk box, Scanmail will 
check for viruses/malware.  I agree, blocking pdf's just isn't possible 
considering the number of authentic pdf's organizations get each day.  It comes 
down to a case of acceptable risk.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce@securityfocus.com
[mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]On Behalf Of Nick Duda
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:26 PM
To: tony barry; Security Basics Forum
Subject: RE: New Spam Technique


Anything is always possible related to payloads and malware....thats a given.
 
Your dealing with pretty muchall of us are dealing with, I'd like to know what 
others are doing to combat this. We use PDF via email lots, and for me to block 
it would be bad. For me to Qtine it would be bad, even with somethign like and 
EUQ solution.
 
PDF sizes vary, so blocking based on size is hard. My employees are starting to 
complain about this, and I can't figure out a solution that is rock hard to 
block the bad and pass the good.
 
What are others doing? We get hundred of these a day, if not more!

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From: listbounce@securityfocus.com on behalf of tony barry
Sent: Thu 7/19/2007 3:04 PM
To: Security Basics Forum
Subject: New Spam Technique



Hi List,

We operate several mail servers with catch all accounts and have noticed
a lot of Mailer Daemon 'delivery failed messages mails from genuine
sites (mostly German)arriving recently. It would seem the spammers are
sending out e-mails with a PDF attachment and a forged senders address
to bogus recipients at these organizations whose mail server rejects the
message and sends notification to the forged sender. We have opened one
attachment on an isolated machine and it was one of the 'watch these
stocks they're going through the roof messages (not exactly sure of the
details as my German is a bit rusty). My concern is that there could be
a 'payload' embedded in the PDF. Is this possible?


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