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| Subject: | RE: Usefulness AUP on an Anonymous Wireless Network. |
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| Date: | Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:42:22 -0700 |
I can't think why you would. ISPs like to get *PAID*, and as a result tend to enter into an enforceable contract with their users, to which the AUP is attached. In the anonymous (therefore free) context specified, you've no such hook to hang any legal restrictions (and indemnification) on. David Gillett
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Ramsdell [mailto:Scott.Ramsdell@cellnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:10 AM To: gillettdavid@fhda.edu; Jerry Gamblin; security-basics@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Usefulness AUP on an Anonymous Wireless Network. I'm not a lawyer either, but I would expect you'd enjoy the same protection ISP's do. -Scott Ramsdell -----Original Message----- From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com] On Behalf Of David Gillett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:14 PM To: 'Jerry Gamblin'; security-basics@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Usefulness AUP on an Anonymous Wireless Network. My expectation (IANAL...) is that if you can't prove that the user saw and agreed to the AUP, you can't enforce it in court (if it comes to that). And that would include being able to pass liability on from you to them, so unless you trust them to make life-or-death decisions about your network, I'd want some slightly stronger mechanism. Dave Gillett-----Original Message----- From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Gamblin Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:17 AM To: security-basics@securityfocus.com Subject: Usefulness AUP on an Anonymous Wireless Network. I was having a discussion with a professor in one of my law classes and he didn't have an answer so I thought I would ask it here. Here is the hypothetical situation: You have a public wireless network that doesn't have anauthenticationmechanism that you allow the general public to use. Inorder to limityour liability you use a click through AUP but you don'task for anyinformation that can be used in tracking the user should they do something illegal on your network (example: download a movie off bittorrent). Does the click through AUP mitigate your liability or is it just a false feeling of security? Thanks, Jerry W. Gamblin Information Systems Missouri House of Representatives 201 West Capitol Avenue Jefferson City, MO 65101 -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- This list is sponsored by: Norwich University EARN A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION ASSURANCE - ONLINEThe NSA hasdesignated Norwich University a center of Academic Excellence in Information Security. Our program offers unparalleled Infosec management education and the case study affords you unmatched consulting experience. Using interactive e-Learning technology, you can earn this esteemed degree, without disrupting your career or home life. http://www.msia.norwich.edu/secfocus -------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- --- This list is sponsored by: Norwich University EARN A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION ASSURANCE - ONLINE The NSA has designated Norwich University a center of Academic Excellence in Information Security. Our program offers unparalleled Infosec management education and the case study affords you unmatched consulting experience. Using interactive e-Learning technology, you can earn this esteemed degree, without disrupting your career or home life. http://www.msia.norwich.edu/secfocus -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ---
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