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RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption

Subject: RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:02:06 -0600
I am firmly of the belief that it is a corruption of justice to use the 
judicial system to seek revenge, or "provide closure" for a victim's family.

It is intended to offer guidance, rehabilitation and in the worst cases (like 
this one) to remove the offender from the public.

I have been close friend to a victim of a very nasty case of a similar nature, 
but i stand firm by my belief that this is not the way it should be regarded.

For the benefit of the list (being technical in nature), I propose we wrap up 
this discussion as it is a philosophical disagreement rather than a technical 
one.  I think making encryption a crime, regardless of the circumstances is 
contrary to civiand often done for the wrong reasons and I'll leave it at that.

Eric

PS smart criminals store their information in a hidden partition and get around 
this whole thing....  and we're back to "minor" crimials getting tagged...  or 
so the theory goes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Saqib Ali [mailto:docbook.xml@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:03 PM
To: Hagen, Eric; kurt.buff@gmail.com; Ozgur Ozdemircili;
knobdy@gmail.com; robert.d.holtz@gmail.com; theguitarizt@gmail.com
Cc: security-basics
Subject: Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption


On 10/19/06, Hagen, Eric <hagene@denvernewspaperagency.com> wrote:
How about if you cleaned up the scene of a crime so that it was nearly 
impossible to identify you as the culprit?  Should this be prosecutable?  You 
were using gloves and a mop to attempt to cover up misdeeds.  Is this a 
crime?  Should it be a crime?   How does encryption differ?

No, it is very different. In this case a pedophile is using encryption
to illegally hold back information from the law enforcement agencies -
the information that can be used to solve several crimes and bring
closure to victim's families. What you are talking about is completely
off-topic.

What I am talking about is when a criminal is "already convicted" the
DA can make deals with the pedophile in exchange of leniency in
sentencing. My proposal give more leverage to  the office of DA to
make these kinds of deals.

If you are the family of a victim wouldn't you want to some kind of
closure even if the pedophile is already behind bars for a different
case?

Remember:
"The art of policing is, in order not to punish often, to punish severely"

-- 
Saqib Ali, CISSP, ISSAP
http://www.full-disk-encryption.net

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