RE: Re: Re: RE: ADS Password Storage Protection

Dave,

I had actually seen most of those sites and did find them to contain 
excellent discussions.

However, unless I missed it, I didn't see anything touching on what 
I'll call "strong passphrases."

Thanks,

Harold

At 01:16 PM 7/18/2006, dave kleiman wrote:
> Winshel,
>
>
> That would be because after 14 characters there is no LM hash store of the
> password on a windows system.
>
> Some excellent resources for discussions on good password polices and ideas:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/88/312263
>
> 5-Minute Security Advisor - Choosing a Good Password Policy:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/community/columns/security/5min/5mi
> n-302.mspx
>
> Frequently Asked Questions About Passwords:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/secmgmt/sm1005.mspx
>
> The Great Debates: Pass Phrases vs. Passwords:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/secmgmt/sm1004.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/secmgmt/sm1104.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/secmgmt/sm1204.mspx
>
> And:
> http://www.syngress.com/catalog/?pid=3420
> http://www.castlecops.com/a5842-Passwords_Staying_Safe.html
>
>
>
>
> Dave
>
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>    -----Original Message-----
>     From: winshel@camden.rutgers.edu
>     [mailto:winshel@camden.rutgers.edu]
>     Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 23:49
>     To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
>     Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: ADS Password Storage Protection
>
>     Thanks for the comment.  I'm still unclear - if I'm not
>     mischaraterizing the situation - why there seems to be a
>     lot of support for the idea that a 15 character windows
>     passphrase can be a real phrase and be very secure.  Do you
>     think there is - or will be in the near future - a
>     passphrase attack?    Is there such a thing as a "strong
>     passphrase?"

Harold Winshel
Computing and Instructional Technologies
Faculty of Arts & Sciences
Rutgers University, Camden Campus
311 N. 5th Street, Room B36 Armitage Hall
Camden NJ 08102
(856) 225-6669 (O)


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