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RE: Wireless Security (Part 2)

Subject: RE: Wireless Security (Part 2)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:15:53 -0400
Hi Herman,
I don't think you'd get what you wanted from ipconfig /all-it would show you 
gateways/dns etc but not other machines that are connected to yours. Netstat 
could do that. Your router may have some ability to show connections in a gui 
or even in the logs.
You could possibly use arp to work out MAC addresses too. Working out IP's on a 
wireless network is only part of the solution though--where are they 
physically? You'd need some kind of tool to narrow that down. I know 
Netstumbler is good for checking AP's but don't know if it can be used to find 
wireless NIC's that are connected. Might be worth investigating--someone else 
on the list may be better at telling you that. As ever, change the keys for the 
SSID often if it is using WEP or go to WPA if the router has the capability. 
Good luck.



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ebeling, Jr., Herman Frederick" <hfebelingjr@lycos.com>
Reply-To: hfebelingjr@lycos.com
Date:  Tue, 16 May 2006 19:17:03 -0400


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- ----Original Message----
From: Murad Talukdar [mailto:talukdar_m@subway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May, 2006 00:25
To: hfebelingjr@lycos.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Wireless Security (Part 2)

: Hey Herman,
: Still doesn't give you the legal right to access their machine. I'm
: pretty sure this is warrant territory. Call your local police etc
: and see what they say.
: 
: The fact that you have the ABILITY to do this doesn't mean you have
: the right/jurisdiction. Any access you may take up would no doubt
: void any kind of legal argument you could use if you found
: incriminating evidence on the machine in question. (i.e. how does
the
: State/Court/Crown ensure that YOU didn't put the incriminating
: evidence there). 
: 
: Having a definite warning banner is a great idea because then the
: unauthorized person knows for sure that they are not supposed to be
: there and they have been told in no uncertain terms. Not sure about
: putting the caveat about hacking them in kind (which is pretty much
: what you'd be doing). 
: 
: 
: Regards
: Murad Talukdar

Murad,

      I admit that the owner of a network could get into trouble for
trying to ID the person who has illegally connecting to their
network.

      Uh, wouldn't just running ipconfig/all show one all the computers on
their network.  And being as it would be run only on the network
owner's computer they haven't "hacked" anything have they.

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Herman
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