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Re: how nmap can know my firewalled servers ?

Subject: Re: how nmap can know my firewalled servers ?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:59:43 -0200
I am assuming you are using a DROP rule on your firewall.  NMAP knows> that 
if it does not receive a response for a TCP connection then it is> 
firewalled.  Dropping traffic at a firewall violates RFC and makes it> much 
easier to know when there is a firewall between the scanner and the> end 
host.  I recommend using REJECT>> -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with 
icmp-host-unreachable>> That will conform to RFC (I'm pretty sure) and will 
make it harder to> detect a firewall with NMAP.>
True, I am using DROP state on my iptables, but even when I changedthe state of 
my firewall to "REJECT --reject-withicmp-host-unreachable" - nmap _still_ knows 
that my services arerunning (telnet) and are filtered !
linux:/ # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j REJECT 
--reject-withicmp-host-unreachablelinux:/ # nmap  localhost
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-04-13 12:59 
GMT+2Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):(The 1648 ports scanned but not 
shown below are in state: closed)PORT      STATE    SERVICE22/tcp    open     
ssh23/tcp    filtered telnet...
linux:/ # iptables -LChain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)target     prot opt source      
         destinationREJECT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere           
 tcpdpt:telnet reject-with icmp-host-unreachable
Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)target     prot opt source               
destination
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)target     prot opt source               destination

So how do I fool nmap that my service is really down ?

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