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Re: password cracking: one char at a time.

Subject: Re: password cracking: one char at a time.
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:55:59 -0500
Clement Dupuis wrote:

Good day Michael,

Most password encryption use a hashing algorithm which computes a hash value
on the WHOLE password and not part of it.  Windows hashes use to break the
password in two 7 character value before creating the hash but most OS does
not do this.

This means that you must have the proper password and cannot attempt
cracking a one character at the time.  On top of this, some implementation
use a seed value for some randomness, even if you have the correct password,
you might not be able to guess without the seed value.

I am not sure what you mean by a one way versus two way password?


It is my understanding that some algorithms create a hash that allows you to use
the hash to unencrypt the password. With other algorithms it is not possable to
unencrypt the hash to get the original password. Is this wrong?


Take care

Clement


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-----Original Message-----
From: michael young [mailto:mhyoung@valdosta.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:27 PM
To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: password cracking: one char at a time.

Hi all,
   I was wondering if is at all possible to discover a password one
char at a time.
Normally, you either get the password right or wrong (all or nothing).
Does anyone know if this can be done? Does it depend on the encryption
algorithm
used to encrypt the password? Is that a difference for 1 and/or 2 way
passwords?

thank you,
Michael









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