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Re: University Degree or CISSP

Subject: Re: University Degree or CISSP
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:02:55 +0000
soumyadipta_das@yahoo.com writes:

Is it better (in terms of technology and industry acceptablity) to get a
university degree on information security than certifications such as 
ccna/ccsp, ceh (or security+) and cissp?

It depends on a number of things.

First, what do you want to DO?  Are you intending to be a security analyst, a 
writer of security-related software, a pen tester, or what?  The attitudes 
towards degrees and certs vary widely between these fields.  The closer the job 
gets to black-hattedness, the less important BOTH of them become, but degrees 
more so.

Second, do you have a degree already, of any kind?  I don't know about 
elsewhere, but here in the USA, that is an absolute requirement for most 
regular corporate technical jobs.  Some also demand it be in an area directly 
relevant to the job; for security engineers, this could be specifically 
computer security, or possibly computer science, information systems, software 
engineering, etc.  However, the *added* employability from having *higher* 
degrees is generally small, except in the federal government, or sometimes 
their contractors looking to put you in contract slots that require specific 
degrees.

Third, it depends what you've done with the knowledge that the degree or cert 
claims you have.  If the paper is fresh, people might think it's still fresh in 
your mind and give the paper more weight.  If it's been quite a while, though, 
they're going to look more at what you've done, which will thus be reinforced 
in your mind, and assume that you've forgotten pretty much everything else.

Fourth, it depends what other experience you've got, that is at least 
tangentially relevant.  For instance, if you want to write security software, 
it would help to have a good background in programming, or at least using 
popular pieces of security software.

Last, it depends on the person you're asking to evaluate you.  Some view certs 
as a good thing, some as neutral, and some even as *negative*, especially MS 
certs.

Long story short, there are no hard and fast rules.  You can probably get the 
certs much more quickly and cheaply, possibly with just self-study and a day or 
two off to take exams, so in my position (CompSci-degreed, in the US, with 
about 20 years experience), I'd go for that first.  YMMV.  Either way, try to 
get an employer to pay for it!  :-)

-Dave



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