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| Subject: | RE: Linking Password Length to Write-down probability |
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| Date: | Fri, 27 May 2005 09:38:03 +0100 |
Hi Stian, It's all down to user education, that's probably the most difficult portion of IT Security ;-) If jrRG££mc$! means SOMETHING for the user, he/she will remember it, otherwise they'll use the "Post-It Solution". Teach your users HOW to select a good password, not WHAT it has to be. If you say "it has to be 8 characters, MiXeD case, with numb3r5 and punctuat!on marks, they'll screw it. If you teach (very old but still good example) to take a phrase they'll easily remember, for example: "Quite frankly darling, what you are saying is of the least importance to me!" And take the first character of each word, this will produce: "Qfd,wyasiotli2m!" (Note I replace "to" with "2). Is that good enough? Of course they can choose their own phrase from whatever source, take the 3rd character instead of the 1st, etc etc etc... On the technical side, remember that bad encryption defeats a good password. What you presented is the opposite, bad passwords defeat good encryption. You have to consider both sides. Cheers, Miguel -----Original Message----- From: Stian Øvrevåge [mailto:sovrevage@gmail.com] Sent: 26 May 2005 10:07 To: security-basics@securityfocus.com Subject: Linking Password Length to Write-down probability God morning list! I continually read papers which advertise increased password lenghts ( and outrageous complexity requirements ) as The Solution(TM). I work in a fairly large organization and I can safely acknowledge that even 8 character passwords with moderate complexity requirements are VERY prone to beeing written un-encrypted and un-hashed on Post-Its, and then safely contained, under the keyboard, or on the monitor. Which in my humble oppinion is bordering to "stupid security". I'm certain that there is a link between required password lenght and complexity and the probability of users taking the huge leap backwards and writing passwords down. I've been doing a little Googling, but I can't seem to find any scientific analytical/statistical research done on this particular subject. Is anyone out there aware of any works done in this field? If not, is there anyone intrested in conducting such a survey on the behalf of the community? Regards, Stian *********************************************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: This e-mail contains proprietary information, some or all of which may be legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you may not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. ***********************************************************************************************************
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