just positioning. The same thing that could be tracked using a
"software key logger" for a mouse could probably be gathered. However
that information could be useful or not to obtain. If an attacker
were able to see usual activity they might be able to guess functions
of buttons/icons on the screen if they are frequently used, and when
they are used in reference to when a customer enters the store or when
they ask a question. So if that machine were compromised the attacker
might have a better knowledge of day-to-day activity on it, and
therefore might know what to do for certain functions. However, for
this to be useful they would also need to have some knowledge of data
entered by employees. So mouse movement alone might not be useable,
but it still allows knowledge of computer and user interaction.
-Kinnell
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:36:43 -0500, Glen Becker <glen.becker@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to clarify for myself, since the discussion has mentioned
products that appear to have keyboards with an integrated pointing
device but centered on the potential key-logging vuln:
Is there any risk posed, or valuable info trasmitted, by wireless mice?
Regards,
-Glen Becker
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:33:52 -0700, David King <davewking@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's a successful attack on a wireless keyboard/mouse combo made by
logitech.
http://www.osvdb.org/displayvuln.php?osvdb_id=13367
and the original message
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2001-05/0224.html
Looks bad.
Laters,
Dave King
http://www.thesecure.net
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:16:06 +0000, Pedro Venda
<pjvenda@arrakis.dhis.org> wrote:
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 05:25, Alvin Oga wrote:
hi ya jared
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 04:13:16PM -0700, Badger, Jared wrote:
My job involves reviewing computer security at a bank, and I was very
surprised to see that nearly all of the computers at one of my
branches
are using these wireless mouse/keyboard combos. It seems like this
could
be a potentially serious security risk,
yup .. big problem
I agree. This is a serious issue, and I don't think current hardware is
encrypting data. hardware sniffers can now be wireless too :-)
The wireless peripherals are now hype (not in the sense that they won't be
used further, but in the sense that everyone has one). with wireless
ethernet, there were security concerns (not efficiently solved) from day
1,
but most people overlook this issue on other peripherals, which I consider
very serious.
It'd be expensive for manufacturers to start producing peripherals with
decent
encryption/decryption hardware, so I don't predict short/medium term
changes.
After all, mose people (even on banks !!!) don't see this issue, so why
would
the masses pay more for something not obviously necessary?
regards,
pedro venda.
--
Pedro João Lopes Venda
email: pjvenda < at > arrakis.dhis.org
http://arrakis.dhis.org
