Hi Curtis,
I have my BSISS degree from ITT. I also have an AS from ITT. I attended in
Utah where the technical schools are lacking. ITT does have it pros and
cons. I appreciated the hands on, since i was new to the IT field. I
appreciated the small class sizes, and great teachers. The ISS degree was a
challenge because we lacked teachers that were from the field, but the
teachers did what they could and overall it was a good experience.
The books are crap and i wouldnt even use mine for reference now, but if
you have a good teacher, they will use hand written tests, and base it off
of real books.
Before attending, i would talk to the teachers for that degree. See how much
they go out of their way.
If you have any questions let me know :)
From: Joseph Forbes <jftitan@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Joseph Forbes <jftitan@gmail.com>
To: Curtis <demoshark@gmail.com>
CC: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend?
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:30:27 -0600
Good News Curtis!
As one of my past experiences was when I was going to ITT Tech.
unfortunately I was in Texas, thus limiting my ability to continue
onto a 4 year degree through ITT. There are Pros and Cons with ITT,
which you'll see quite abit of Cons at ITTsucks.com. But a positive,
while I was going to ITT, was that I did encounter knowledgable
instructors. But unfortunately I didn't get any worthy instructors
until the final 3 quarters at ITT. A major change has recently taken
ITT, that required them to change where they get there books from. ITT
used to have their books written and published by NIIT, which is known
to be a inside outsourced company for ITT based in india. Most of the
tests sucked, but if the instructor was good, they acutally used
his/her own test, which in particular the custom tests are always
better than the NIIT prewritten tests.
Alot of changes are taking in effect at ITT lately which may improve
the quality of the education, but this change is also going to effect
the tuition as well. One thing I noticed with the first quarter
students, during my last (8th) quarter, was that ITT was getting nazi
when it came to attendance. I was told it was because of the Texas
Workforce Commission which was enforcing the rules.
personally, I would recommend ITT for anyone just getting out of
highschool, but never for anyone already in the IT field. You'll learn
more from other forms of education (unless your employeer is willing
to cover your expense) I wouldn't goto ITT. My experience was good,
but I still have reservations about the quality of education I
received.
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:44 -0800, Curtis <demoshark@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Hopefully this question is directed to the right list. I am
> considering going to ITT Tech for a.a. in SAP (Software Application
> Programming) and a b.s. in ISS (Information Systems Security. )
> I have heard a wide variety of pros and cons about ITT ranging from
> "you learn more than other 4-year regular colleges" to "the
> instructors don't even know what they are teaching and all you learn
> is how to pass a certification, provided your instructor didn't
> already sell it to you." One of the main reasons I am considering ITT
> is because it is the only school in Southern California that I know of
> that offers a degree in ISS.
>
> Should I instead of looking for a degree in ISS but rather focus on a
> degree in programming & networking then get security certifications?
> Also does anyone know if ITT is really that horrible and if I should
> instead of going to ITT go to a junior college?
> Are my chances of getting a job leading to a ISS job even lower than
> if I went to a four-year college? I do realize that security can be
> hard to get into and may have to settle for a tech support job and
> work my way up from there.
> Finally, if ITT isn't a good school, any suggestions on a good
> ISS/programming school that is located in Southern California?
>
> Curtis
>
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Joseph Forbes "Don't Forget to Salt the Fries!"
Network Security Administrator
SwapNEtwork eXtreme, Inc.
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