Aren't we talking about :
"Are you using Exchange? Why not use OWA and secure it with SSL?"
If so the idea is to authenticate to the Exchange Server with
Credentials which may not be encrypted, but flow through an encrypted
tunnel. SSL does not provide Authentication, correct, but it does
provide a secure transport for said authentication via other means, in
this case the OWA Authentication (via whatever method setup by the
user).
E.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paris E. Stone [mailto:pstone@alhurra.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:37 AM
To: Shawn Wall; Eric McCarty; Kevin Doheny; sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com;
security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: RPC over HTTP security
Maybe he means there is no Authentication to HTTPS?
Anyone can type https:// and accept a certificate.
All that does is make the traffic past that point illegible to an IDS,
etc....
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Wall [mailto:sjwall@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:54 PM
To: 'Eric McCarty'; 'Kevin Doheny'; sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com;
security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: RPC over HTTP security
I'd have to agree with Eric on this one. SSL is a proven encryption
method.
Billions of dollars are transefer via SSL encypted sites every year. If
was as trivial to 'hack' as you suggest, Kevin, I don't think it would
be in use. Perhaps you could do as Eric suggested and provide some
factual proof.
shawn
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric McCarty [mailto:eric@piteduncan.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Kevin Doheny; Shawn Wall; sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com;
security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: RPC over HTTP security
Your joking right.
"SSL in and of itself provides very little security"
That's why most of the internet uses it right?.
Your gonna have to back up statements like yours with some serious
factual backing otherwise your comments will be discarded as B.S coming
form someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
E.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Doheny [mailto:kdoheny@CNP.net]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:06 AM
To: Shawn Wall; sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: RPC over HTTP security
SSL in and of itself provides very little security... Way to easy to
hack.
Look into a Neoteris (now Juniper) SSL VPN/Proxy. This way evil hack3r
can not ride the SSL stream into your network and past any IDS or IPS
systems.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Wall [mailto:sjwall@shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:04 PM
To: sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: RPC over HTTP security
Are you using Exchange? Why not use OWA and secure it with SSL?
shawn
-----Original Message-----
From: sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com [mailto:sf_mail_sbm@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:03 AM
To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: RPC over HTTP security
Hi List,
We are thinking about deploying RPC over HTTP to access email from the
Internet
Wanted to get some information on the technology and the security
implications of same
Not much info from Microsoft's site
any help would be greatly apreciated
Thanks,
Ronish
