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| Subject: | Re: bridge detection |
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| Date: | Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:40:49 -0500 |
If your clients use OpenBSD's packet scrubbing, you'll have difficulty discerning if there are NAT'ed machines behind their gateway. On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:29:49 -0800, David Gillett <gillettdavid@fhda.edu> wrote:
A router will use its own MAC address as the source. A bridge, by definition, will not. (A proxy will use both its own MAC and IP addresses, as will a router/firewall performing NAT.) A bridge, therefore, is not an issue. But a router or proxy can look like a single client device. Since this is a very hard problem to solve, ask yourself whether you need to solve it! If you bill customers by metered usage, it doesn't matter how many devices they use. If you're trying to avoid supporting routers, tell your tech support staff not to support them. About the only situation that really justifies concern about this is that customers might share/resell your service to people who might, otherwise, become customers themselves. Is there a reason to assume this is a major problem? If so, I think you'll do better with metering, speed caps, or capping the number of simultaneous connections per IP address, than trying to detect devices. David Gillett-----Original Message----- From: G.P.M [mailto:ice4ice@excite.com] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:30 AM To: security-basics@securityfocus.com Subject: bridge detection hi, I was wondering are there any programs which can detect switches/routers, based as well on linux. The problem is that one company is setting up large LAN, with internet access, based on static ip/mac address, for paying reasons. Many clients seperate their connection, often giving mac of the bridge not the PC. i had many ideas about that, eg. checking the vendor for the mac, signal replays from the source. i worry also about 'clear' switches, non programmable ones. Could please someone give me some advise? sorry for my bad english. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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