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| Subject: | RE: Security Practices |
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| Date: | Wed, 18 May 2005 10:08:31 -0600 |
Very interesting paper, I shall have to give it the time for a thorough read. If my understanding of the paper is correct, then that attack would apply to just about any cipher that makes heavy use of S-boxes. That includes RC4, AES, blowfish, and [3-]DES, so you don't have much possibility of choosing unaffected algorithms in SSH, unless some obscure implementation build around Helix instead of block ciphers and HMAC should arise... Cheers Mark
-----Original Message----- From: Bryan McAninch [mailto:bryan@mcaninch.org] Sent: May 17, 2005 14:34 To: secureshell@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Security Practices The AES attack described by Dan Bernstein is impractical, as it requires an enormous amount of known plaintext and is very timing sensitive. Furthermore, the issue does not lie within the algorithm itself, but rather how it is implemented. The paper specifically states that OpenSSL is vulnerable, which makes OpenSSH vulnerable to the attack as well. Stick with AES. Cheers, Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Stepp [mailto:stepp@atistar.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:14 PM To: David Busby Cc: secureshell@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: Security Practices David Busby wrote:List, I'm trying to get my a sshd setup as secure as possible,some folksI know what to send financial data over this....aes256-cbc cipher (only)http://cr.yp.to/antiforgery/cachetiming-20050414.pdf You may want to be aware of this paper. I believe the results are still preliminary, but it's something to follow.I'm thinking that I'll make my key 4096bits to add some security.Heh, is your name Avi? (cryptonomicon reference, couldn't resist) That's probably overkill, but that assumes no codebreaking paradigm shifts or what have you. > Assume best means most secure even atthe sacrifice of performance. Thanks!If you're going to use 4096 bit keys, you may want to move away from md5 as a hashing algorithm, since it has been shown to have some measure of weakness. You might look at SHA256, SHA512, or something like whirlpool. I'm not an expert, however, and I'm not sure how proven whirlpool really is (or about the measure of support of these hashes in ssh)./djb-- :wq
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