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| Subject: | RE: Charging customers on security |
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| Date: | Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:21:08 -0500 |
You retain your integrity, and you push your business as a provider of secure technologies. You promote security every way that you can using legitimate methods (i.e. not using FUD). You cite references which show that secure code is stable code, and use that as a foundation for the reliability of your software. If you need to you buy the PHB a ticket to security conferences; get your secure application installed and get references for the quality. When you are marketing a superior product you must target the correct audience. Back to the automobile analogy; look at the difference between a commercial promoting an Acura NSX, and a commercial promoting a Honda Civic Coupe; do you really think they are targeting the same market? The marketing department targets the higher end consumer by producing material that focuses on the prestige and image of the Acura while the Civic focuses on the low cost and accessibility of the product. This is how you should sell the enhanced features of your product. Yvan Boily
-----Original Message----- From: Jesper Anderson [mailto:jesper@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:40 PM To: secprog@securityfocus.com Cc: Wesley Shields Subject: Re: Charging customers on security On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 04:29:19PM -0400, Wesley Shields wrote:Yes, and there is no excuse for not expending that effort. Keeping the cost to a customer low is a sound business decision, but it quickly becomes outweighed by the number of bugs left open when not expending the effort to fix them because it will cost more money.So what do you do when you are consistently outbid by developers who make the code work, and don't care about security - and the PHB's buy their services instead of yours? There are plenty of excuses to not extend that effort. That is what spawned this whole discussion - how do you persuade the PHB that you actually are worth more money because your code will be secure?Personally, I'd rather pay more to know that the code wasdeveloped asbest as it can possibly be developed than to pay less knowing there are some bugs.What you'd rather do doesn't help when the person buying doesn't. Jesper
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