This whole complaint in this thread is my main problem with commercializing
software. "How much do I get paid for not writing crappy code?" shouldn't
be the primary focus of a programmer, "How can I write code that I can be
proud of?" should be.
My 2 cents. Maybe this is why I'm a security analyst and not a programmer.
Ron Bowes
Information Protection Centre
Government Of Manitoba
204-945-1594
-----Original Message-----
From: ovi [mailto:marioara.alexandru@tin.it]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:57 AM
To: secprog@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Charging customers on security
It's ridiculous. What are you saying ?? If I as a client, don't pay you for
having a stable and secure program you sell me a buggy one???? Not even M$
is
thinking this way anymore, although they continue to sell buggy OS.
On Sunday 26 September 2004 22:40, wirepair wrote:
Charging for security of your own applications? That seems pretty
backwards
to me. Why should the client who buys your software with the expectation
that it works and is secure have to pay for the fact that it isn't? So
when
my seat belts are broken, and my tires randomly explode, I have to pay the
car manufacturer more money to get these features fixed?
duh?
-wire
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:16:40 -0700
King Pang <kingpang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Our company developers Microsoft Solutions and I am responsible for
leading the security initiative in the corporation. I have spent a
lot of time and effort on how we should apply security guidance to our
product life cycle, such as adding threat modeling and doing security
review. But after I have convinced them that security is important,
we brought up a discussion on how we should charge our customers.
Many of you have customer experience. They want to pay the minimum
and have all the features. If they can choose not to pay, they won't.
If we tell them threat modeling will add x human-weeks of development
and we have to charge them x thousand dollars more, they won't pay.
Moreover, they expect the system to be secure enough and if there is
anything wrong, they would think that is our fault.
If any of you have any experience on dealing security with customers
and how you would deal with this issue, please throw in two cents. Any
comments or related articles would help too.
Warm Regards.
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