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Re[2]: PDA recommendation for running Mini-stumbler (maybe OT?)

Subject: Re[2]: PDA recommendation for running Mini-stumbler (maybe OT?)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:31:27 -0800
The current version of the Nokia IT, the N810 has the following relevant specs:

Memory
    * DDR RAM 128MB
    * Flash 256MB
Storage
    * Up to 2GB internal memory
    * Support for compatible miniSD and microSD memory cards (with extender). 
Supports cards up to 8GB. (SD cards over 2GB must be SDHC compatible.)

Jay, I'll gladly take either/both of the Nokia's sitting on your junk shelf. 
Mine has been stable, great fun, and an interesting learning experience. 
Clearly this is not a consumer device. Mine came with an unstable OS, but the 
upgrade to the most recent OS made all the difference, at least for me. While I 
would only recommend it to either a gadget enthusiast or a Linux partisan, 
there is much value in this device. It's not a PDA and won't (despite the 
available Garnet VM) replace my Palm device, but given its feature set I've 
found many uses for it.

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---Matthew
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 2/10/2008 at 10:56 PM David M. Zendzian wrote:

The problem with the nokia is that they only put 64M of RAM into it. Who 
in this day & age thought of that with ram prices so cheap.

But with that in mind, and using the hacked OS2007 image i'm fairly 
stable :) at least enough to run some "decent" apps (600 page ebook, 
kismit, a few xterms, ssh, etc; never all at the same time...).  Just 
don't load a lot of applets and extra apps, it is a small tablet.

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770

That's the link to the OS2007 for the 770. I still have some issues with 
stability but i know it's 100% due to running out of ram & hitting swap. 
It does run way too many daemons, but it is linux and you can tweek it 
some :)

David

If you need more power, there is always the OQO of the sony. But they 
are slightly bigger than the average PDA.

James, Jay wrote:
I bought a Nokia device especially for this purpose.
It wasn't stable and crashed frequently -- I figured it was because my
son dropped it from 3 feet or so.
Fine, I give Nokia the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps a loose surface
mount component... ok. Whatever, I get it.
Crash Crash Crash.

So I then bought another one. 
It wasn't stable enough either and crashed almost as frequently (I was
obsessed about keeping Juniors hands off of it this time around).
Having 2 unstable Nokia devices are enough for me to perhaps inspire the
pentester to think again about using even one.
If someone has better luck with this, then good for you! I am jealous,
as I have spent untold hours on mine trying to get things to a point of
stability.
As it is now, these are relegated to sitting on a shelf in the home lab. 
The shelf is labeled "The Junk Shelf". 

Spend and learn.




Jay James
INFOSEC
ID Analytics, Inc.
Office:  +858-312-6237
www.idanalytics.com




-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]
On Behalf Of Slim Pickens
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Paul Greene
Cc: Pentest Mailinglist
Subject: Re: PDA recommendation for running Mini-stumbler (maybe OT?)

Try a Nokia N810 and run kismet, aircrack, dsniff, and metasploit  
instead.

On Feb 4, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Paul Greene <techlists@comcast.net> wrote:

  
I hope this isn't too off topic for the list.

I want to buy a PDA that can also be used as a phone, has builtin  
802.11 b/g wifi, and, importantly, has no problems running mini- 
stumbler. If the device also had a built in 1 or 2 megapixel camera,  
even better.

The HP iPAQ 510 looks like it has the specs, but I can't find anyone  
anywhere using this particular model with mini-stumbler. Almost all  
of the Google searches I ran on mini-stumbler and iPAQs came up with  
older posts, i.e. 2-5 years ago. (the operating system on the iPAQ  
510 is Windows Mobile 6.0)

I'm not set on an iPAQ, but am more interested in getting a current  
PDA model that someone is already running (with the above specs) and  
is enthusiastically happy with what they've got.

TIA,

Paul

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