Hi,
The SANS GCIH has much of this. However, if you want a pure Pen Test = course
(with all the negatives as well as the positives) then SANS have = SEC 560.
If you go to:
http://www.sans.org/tysonscorner08/description.php?tid=3D1717
You will get a description. Ed is finishing up the course material now, = so
the course description will flesh out more as time passes and before = this
starts in the new year. So there is a focused SANS Course.
To take a quote:
"Successful penetration testers don't just throw a bunch of hacks = against an
organization and regurgitate the output of their tools. = Instead, they need to
understand how these tools work in-depth, and = conduct their test in a
careful, professional manner. This course = explains the inner workings of
numerous tools and their use in effective = penetration testing. When teaching
the class, I particularly enjoy the = numerous hands-on exercises culminated
with a final pen-testing = extravaganza lab". -Ed Skoudis
There are also specialised Advanced database and web testing courses.
Regards,
Dr Craig Wright (GSE-Compliance)
Craig Wright
Manager of Information Systems
Direct : +61 2 9286 5497
Craig.Wright@bdo.com.au
+61 417 683 914
-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com] = On
Behalf Of Walter Cuestas
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:21 PM
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???
Just to say that every comment about CEH seems to be based on versiones
previous to 5 (some comments seems based on books from EC Council and 2 others
that are so far from current EC Council material).
Today, CEH is the start point and next steps for people who wants to
demonstrate their knowledge and expertise, thtrough certifications, are ECSA
and finally get LPT (if you need this one).
Since the first mail of this thread, I have reviewed every syllabus, exam
topics, exam and labs demos, training videos and so on.
IMHO, there are just three sources for pen test related certifications
: EC Council, ISECOM and Mile2 (based on CEH).
SANS has a lot of certifications that are good complement for CEH, OPST, OPSA,
CPTS and CPTE, but, I can't find an specific pen test certification from SANS.
Also, as all of you know, there is no certification neither a set of exams that
really demonstrate the actual knowledge of people.
These certifications are just a complement for a professional career.
BTW, I have reviewed some of the recommended training based on videos and they
seem to be just BackTrack courses.
Regards,
On Dec 19, 2007 11:49 AM, mgk.mailing < mgk.mailing@googlemail.com> =
wrote:
wow,
Have been playing with back track for a while but i didnt realise =
they
did certificated courses as well. Thanks for the info
mgk
Danux wrote:
If you really wanna start understanding how to PenTest you should
forget CEH its for script kiddies, you MUST try - From BackTrack
Creators!!! Offensive-Security Courses.
CEH teach you how to use tools but Offensive Security 101 course =
teach
you how to think like a hacker developing your own scripts or
exploits, and isc2 gives 40 CPE's for that course. Is excellent, =
and
the certification is called OCSP - Offensive Security Certified
Professional (you can get it after passing a 24 hour real hacking
test).
Check it out:
http://www.offensive-security.com/offsec101.php
Cheers!!!!!
On Dec 17, 2007 12:44 PM, <infolookup@gmail.com> wrote:
Good day all,
I know this is not really a tech-pentest question however I =
wanted to get some feed back as to what certs/skill set one need to = acquire
in order to break into the pentest/information = assurance/computer forensics
job market.
I am a about to graduate with my BA in computer system next =
semester, and I am tring to get into a security related field, I did = very
little vul-testing/pentesting for friends, or on a few work servers = and wifi
network.
And that was very interesting, but with so many certs and paths =
out there I wanted to know which ones you guys took so I can get an = idea.
Thanks in advance.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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