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Re: How to track down a wireless hacker

Subject: Re: How to track down a wireless hacker
Date: 7 Nov 2007 21:11:53 -0000
When you last went to the store and purchased a wireless card with cash did 
they take a photo ID?
When you picked up the box with the serial no. on the inside, did they record 
it against your name?

If it was changed - the real one is lost. It will not see the light of day

Some times you will find cards all with the same MACs. They should not do this, 
but I have receieved batches of cards with the same mac in the past. The 
manufacturer does not keep Mac addresses and there is no secret repository of 
them as a mapping to people.

Next the attacker could have been 5 miles away with a good high gain antenna. 
So it means that you can not even rely on proximity.

Anything you get is going to be from the compromised machines themself. You 
need to engage in a forensic analysis of the compromised hosts (if it is not 
too late). This is where the clues are.

If you really want to be able to match your myster attacker, association 
techniques (data mining) such as rpart may help match ations derived from a 
training set of data created from the forensic data you will collect on the 
compromised host to an individual if this person has done this elsewhere or has 
been caught before.

Regards,
Craig Wright (GSE-Compliance)


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From: listbounce@securityfocus.com on behalf of jond
Sent: Wed 7/11/2007 11:27 AM
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: How to track down a wireless hacker


I have a new client who was setup with a wireless network a while back
using WPA encryption by another firm.
An 'unauthorized user' broke the encryption and got onto their network.
They've come to me to design a solution so that this doesn't happen
again, which isn't a problem.


However they also asked me if it's possible to track down the attacker
if this happened again.
From what I know, it's not possible is it?

If the attacker didn't change their MAC address, and say the companies
lawyers could get some sort of court order to intel, dell, etc to
release which MAC address went to which computer and who bought said
computer. Does the manufacture even keep that info?

If the attacker did change their MAC address, the real MAC address
will never transverse the wire(AIR) right, or is it still in the
packet somewhere?

Any other thoughts or ideas to track someone down?
Is any other info leaked that I'm not thinking about?



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