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Re: Pen Test success rate

Subject: Re: Pen Test success rate
Date: 31 Aug 2007 20:59:10 -0000
42 is a good answer!

Pen-testing should probably always expect penetration if you can include social 
engineering, physical proximity, or internal access presence (insider, soft 
chewy interior, user/admin access,configs access, etc). But a purely external 
pen-test is a different ballgame.

Your measure of success is going to include the important variable of how much 
of an Internet footprint your client has. A large footprint may offer some 
holes, but a small footprint with 3 patched and configured services hiding 
behind a decent firewall may not offer you much to do at all. I wouldn't be 
surprised to see pen testers not break into setups like that.

This also changes if you're speaking about application pen testing instead of 
network pen testing. The size and security of the web application will dictate 
your success rates. You might not find anything in a small web site except 
perhaps some XSS or low-lying, non-fatal bugs.

You should always go in hoping and expecting to find an opening since that is 
what you're paid to do. But don't expect every external pen test to be a 
success from that standpoint.


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From: James Kelly <macubergeek (at) comcast (dot) net [email concealed]>
Given this scenario: Red team pen test from the Internet with no 
information or cooperation from IT staff.

What would be a reasonable success rate of breaking in to say at 
least DMZ machines? Of internal hosts on private network?

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