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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Rob Meijer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, R. DuFresne wrote:
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, dfullerton@mantor.org wrote:
Then I wonder if this certification should really have this kind of notoriety.
Looks like it's not technical and if an 11 years old boy can complete this cert
...it's not about security management experience either.
Anyone can give me some good reason to acquire CISSP while not being related to money and the wannabe marketing-made notoriety?
To get hired. It's a requirement for most companies seeking security
folks, some companies will hire you without, if you can show experience
in the field, and require you get one shortly after being employed., and
for any of the agencies that assist with those seeking employment in the
field. If you are seeking experience in the field by hiring thru agencies
that will market you for security type work, a CISSP is a most, in most
cases upfront to get a foot in the door.
To me it sounds like you got it backwards.
It is large quantities of 'skill and experience' that is a requirement,
and some companies will hire you without if you have certifications like
CISSP and they are on a tight budget.
I would sugest to use the folowing rules of thumb with respect to
certifications:
* less 5 years relevant experience: get certified, if not for the
knowledge, get them to get payed more !
* more than 10 years of relevant experience: certification is
completely useless, don't bother.
* 5 to 10 years relevant experience and an empty or not fully verifiable
resume: get certified, it compensates.
* 5 to 10 years relevant experience and a verifyable resume with some
highlights in it: if you realy want a specific job that requires it,
than get certified, otherwise, find a employer that does apreciate your
skills and experience.
which might well work, if one could get around HR weinies and the
pre-screening agencies that many companies rely upon these days. but yes,
this was a valid route to consider back about 10-15 years ago. Times
change and sometimes not for the better....
Thanks,
Ron Dufresne
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