Dear All,
From this thread it is clearly seen that this conversation is a vicious cycle.
Previously the same happened for some other Cert and it keeps happening like
this for ever. Why cant someone ever think about reality for a while.
Certs are something in paper that tells the recruiter that you know the basic
stuff that you have to know to enter a position. It is the minimal need or
requirement. A cert is not compared to a degree or anything else. Certs just
prove that you are UP-TO-Date on your skillsets which you quote in your resume.
If you have a CISSP cert and if you write your skill sets to be ?Plumbing and
drilling?, it doesn?t make sense, right. As in I donot mean to say that other
technology people cannot write certifications, it is just something that is
essential when you are looking for that particular field. It shows that you
have the basic knowledge of what you need to know in that field. It doesn?t
show how much skills you have and to what level. CCIE is completely different.
If you don?t know everything about CISCO stuff, you cannot pass the exam as it
is a 100% laboratory experiment including questions and stuff that are based on
real life scenarios. If the same is repeated in question p
aper format, then it is not a ?Pro? like CCIE. It is only ?Basic? knowledge.
There are many of them in this list who has passed certs by using bootcamps and
dumps. Do you expect them to know everything as a 50 yr old experienced guy in
the SAME field. I don?t think so. Experience is the best, and if not certs show
that you have the basic knowledge in your field. Unger grad and grad shows that
you have had the patience to manage the education and your foundations are
stronger in Computer Science or the degree you have chosen in. Without
foundations, pillars wouldn?t stand. Foundations are most important for
anything. It may be achieved by years of experience or by proper education. If
you tell that ?you were born intelligent and education made you a fool?, then
understand that you are a fool for thinking like that and count the number of
years you will be on the same level or go down in your level.
Being modest is the best, accepting truth is even better. Self evaluation is
best judgmental of what skills you possess. Being truthful on your experience
and as well on the skill sets will help the security community keep clean. If
you lie to the organizations that you possess experience and skill sets just
because the community pays a lot of money, you are only shedding filth into the
community. It is not going to help ?Securing? anything. It is better to be
honest and with good attitude. I am sure that this email may be offensive and
the moderator may not even initiate in forwarding it. But the truth is not in
what you have in the paper format, ?has it entered into your brain? and if the
answer is yes, ?are you good enough in using that when situation arises?, it is
the best if that is the case. Knowing the SOLUTIONS alone doesn?t help.
Similarly, having the skills alone doesn?t protect anything. Using it at the
right time at the right place in the right direction is the b
est for improving the Security community.
Think about it once again and if you feel that you are not yet good enough for
securing stuff, get back to the fundamental jobs of programming and networking
and get more foundations as you can. If people talks high-level jargons, it
doesn?t mean that they know stuff. It only means that their failure is seen
soon. It is good to know stuff, but it is not always good to think in higher
order. It is good to be very basic at your thoughts as that are the place of
most weaknesses. Finding the weakness if the most essential part in the field
of security.
Good Luck and Merry Christmas.
Shyaam
