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| Subject: | Re: Windows XP / 2K3 Default Users |
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| Date: | Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:39:36 -0700 |
You "routinely" crack passwords on SAM's that are SYSKEY'd by default (128-bit) with rainbow tables? XP/2k3 has syskey on by default... And any password over 14 characters automatically clear the LM hash, even if you have not turned it off (which I can't imagine anyone not doing.) So, I'm guessing that the "rainbow table" hubbub is all 40-bit, or silly LM hash cracking, right? Or am I missing something here? t On 10/26/06 2:07 PM, "ep" <captgoodnight@hotmail.com> spoketh to all:
I crack these routinely when pentesting/playing, granted, it's by pushing the sam through rainbow tables, thus admin access... Basically, any sam once in hand, is cracked these days via rainbowtables. There're ways to prevent this from happening, but most admins don't go that extra step... --cg -----Original Message----- From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com] On Behalf Of Joey Peloquin Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:38 PM To: s-williams@nyc.rr.com; Pen-Testing Subject: Re: Windows XP / 2K3 Default Users s-williams@nyc.rr.com wrote:Hello list this might be an easy question to answer but have anyone been sucessful in using windows built in default accounts when doing a password audit. Iknow mostxp machines has (help assitant and support_xxxxxxxx). Is their a defaultlist outthere some where with various vendor OS passwords, or a way to figure out the password for these accounts. Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileYou can try to crack them through normal means, but it'd likely be a futile act since a) they are randomized and *extremely* complex (as far as I recall) and b) even my ~13 year old knows to restrict these accounts. There are clueless admins out there though, so, *shrug*. -jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps? Cenzic Hailstorm finds vulnerabilities fast. Click the link to buy it, try it or download Hailstorm for FREE. http://www.cenzic.com/products_services/download_hailstorm.php?camp=70160000 0008bOW ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps? Cenzic Hailstorm finds vulnerabilities fast. Click the link to buy it, try it or download Hailstorm for FREE. http://www.cenzic.com/products_services/download_hailstorm.php?camp=7016000000 08bOW ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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